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Hi All,

I've been using Pressfix transfers since the late 80's and never had any problems, but I've decided to have a go with HMRS Methfix transfers, grabbed by the promise of a better finish.

I like the way they are applied and the results do look good, but I am having something like a 90% 'failure to stick rate'.
No matter what I do, whether the surface is gloss or matt, the transfers fall off when dried, presumably because the 'glue' isn't activating or it just isn't sticking. The surface is Railmatch paints, BR Bauxite.
I have followed the instructions on the pack regarding mixture and application.

The meths which is commonly available here in Australia is sold under the brand of 'Diggers' as 'Methylated Sprits'. It is described as 'denatured alcohol' - exactly as written on the HMRS instructions. It is transparent in appearance - looks like water.

When I grew up in the UK in the 1970's, my grandfather had a 'Mammod' traction engine which was fired with methylated spirit. My father also used the same meths for methfix transfers at the time. From memory, the spirit was purple in colour and it smelled very different (pungent) to what what the Diggers stuff I am using now for the HRMS transfers does.

I suspect that the meths here may not be the same as that in the UK and obviously, what the Methfix transfers are designed to work with.

Can anyone offer any tips please, particularly anyone in Oz or NZ ?

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Thanks Julian,

I have tried both these approaches.

The issue I am having is not about the backing paper come off, but the fact that the transfers themselves are just not sticking to the surface I am applying them to.

I've come across another modeller here who is having the same issue. It seems that the meths available here in Australia isn't the same as the UK.

Graham
 

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QUOTE (Richard Johnson @ 19 Jun 2020, 18:37) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>*** I used Metthfix when in Australia and it was very fussy about the water/meths mix, and also needed distilled water rather than tap water. I think the core of the problem is that the glue was formulated when paint was solvent based enamels and also... it does not age well either.

I ended up applying methfix within hours of a very light coat of clear - applied with an appx 80% thinners, 20% thinner mix. (When I say within hours, I mean while the coat can still be smelled so still has some solvents present)

Overall I greatly prefer HMRS pressfix.

Richard

Thanks Richard, I was hoping you would 'chip in' as someone familiar with the AU market, because your observations are consistent with mine.

I spoke with my father about this as well. When we lived in the UK, he used to use methfix all the time and swore by it. Indeed, some of the wagons he applied methfix to are still running on his P4 layout and look as good as they day he did them. He has tried methfix recently and got exactly the same results as me - a disaster.

Summarising what has come out of this, I believe that:

- The meths we use here in Australia is not the same as the UK, even though it is called the same thing
- The glue on the transfers is no longer compatible with the non-solvent based paints we use today

That poses the question: why are HMRS continuing to produce a product which is not compatible with modern paints or modern formulations of meths ?

I really do like the results of methfix and I do like the way they are applied, but at the end of the day, if they don't stick, they are a waste of time and money.

I will revert to HMRS Pressfix. Never had any problems with them...other than the fact that HMRS try to cram too many into a given area, making them difficult to see and difficult not to damage adjacent numerals when removing.

Many Thanks
 
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