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Hornby have listed their new products for 2019 on their website here

Jan 8th PM. I have removed moderation from replies. Not sure how that got set ...

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It's an ambitious release list and there is a lot for a lot of people within it. Some better coverage of post steam than the recent past
I feel, and they have clearly been busy judging by some of the planned release dates. The first tranche of Terriers are pretty much
about to leave China.

If there was an omission that surprised me, it was the 'final form' streamlined version of the P2. The chassis block tooling shows this
version was planned, and I should have though that the original version is past peak in terms of sales. But hey, with any luck there
will be a next year for Hornby if this bumper selection sells well...
 

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They have saved me some money. I was very pleased to see a mainland SR Terrier in Maunsell Green, until I realised that I already had a Hornby Terrier with that number in that livery. On the other hand, some of their brake vans look interesting to me, unfortunately for my wallet.
 

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Interesting selection but not much for my 1962 railway, so I am thinking about up grading my mark 1 coaches, a few locos but have a good selection now of recent models some more appropriate freight wagons but overall there is not much there, my money may be mostly safe so hope the strategy works as we need Hornby so they have to sell some stuff.

Excitement levels at 0 (zero)
 

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Maybe too many people trying to access their web site in so far that it is so slow I have given up.

However from the Hattons web site I can say there is only one item that interests me and that is the A1X Terrier. My first locomotive when I returned to model railways in 1999 was a Terrier which probably needs a new motor (not available) but I have just about given up on it.

Interesting to see the new Terrier is available DCC fitted. I may take the chance of ordering that version.

I share your level of excitement Kristopher, zero. Disappointing but maybe Bachman will be more exciting.
 

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QUOTE Maybe too many people trying to access their web site in so far that it is so slow I have given up.

That was certainly my experience using two different devices in two different locations. It took a lot of perseverance to get through all the pages and there was no explanation as to what was new tooling. The Hattons website summary was more useful for that.

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The Terrier was a late addition to the announced range and as a result may not be covered in the model mags when they publish details of Hornbys 2019 range. Hornbys own The Collector magazine misses it whilst covering the remainder. For the record aside from the Terrier there is their fourth attempt at a Princess Royal, the last one dating from 2001 and significantly better than the 1950 and 1984 versions, a GW 5101/61xx 2-6-2T replacing the 1977 Airfix one in their range but seemingly in direct competition with Dapol who had already announced it, a Peckett B2 outside cylinder 0-6-0ST and a Ruston & Hornby 48DM 4wDM with detachable conflat to ensure electrical pick up. Notably Hornby UK seem to have finally realised a 6 pin DCC socket exists as they have announced a 6 pin decoder; looks to be a bit of bodge being a 6 pin cable to a pcb decoder rather than the normal integrated type (and I'm assuming it is a proper 6 pin and a not a Hornby cobble like their 4 pin).
The new coaches are SR 59ft Bulleid corridor composite and brake thirds to make up 3 coach sets, GW Collett 57ft bow-ended suburbans which presumably consign the 1977 Airfix B Set coaches to history or the Railroad range, the latest alteration of BR Mk3s with sliding doors and oddly BR Mk2Fs which Bachmann have just released (its not as if every variety of Mk2 has been produced).
The final termination of an old late 70s Airfix model is a new LMS 20T Brake Van along with a LSWR 20T 'New Van' Brake Van which is a different later brake van (twin ended) to the single ended one Kernow are doing.
 

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QUOTE The Terrier was a late addition to the announced range and as a result may not be covered in the model mags when they publish details of Hornbys 2019 range.
It's not in the Feb 2019 edition of Hornby Magazine which was on the doormat when I got home tonight.

Gaugemaster have created a list of all the new introductions here. When I tried it out at lunch time it was very responsive. Useful if you need to know everything.

I am tempted by the TTS P2 sound decoder.

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The latest installment in Hornby's Engine Shed blog gives a quick run down on the models being produced with new tooling - link.

It took me several attempts to get to that page this evening so some persistence may be required.

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I must confess, the Peckett B2 is actually rather exciting to me!
If it runs as well as the earlier 0-4-0 version did and there's no reason to assume not, then it should be a truly fantastic little model.

Ideas of a little industrial backwater keep appearing in my mind.
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Hi Folks Hornby's 2019 range is quite ambitious bearing in mind previous years products being pushed back but for me the LSWR brake van
is pleasing having known about it for a year or more. The big disappointment has been the Maunsell Kitchen diner with two more releases but
both are the same livery as before, especially having just bought the new companion open saloon which turned out to be in lined Maunsell
green. I had also hoped the Maunsell lined high window composite would complete the series but I was aware that is still for the future.
Similarly the Radial in prewar guise to go with the Lyme Regis set, which still remains stranded at Lyme station.

...Modellers of the current scene should be pretty happy with the coaching stock proposed although quite how many will be buying complete
rakes which work out at over 10' long is debatable. I suspect most will only buy 3 or 4 intermediate coaches which may leave a lot of stock
of the later suffixes unsold if they all go for the first items in the list.

...My Airfix LMS brakevan, good though it is, may not now get the upgrade which I have been putting off for, my goodness !, it is now almost
40 years. The Bulleid shorties are a good reuse of the chassis although the chassis of the Push Pull driving coach which appears to be under
these is not perfect. It does not involve much alteration and even that should not take more than a few minutes per coach.

…. The biggest surprise is the reintroduction of items originally released by Triang before 1964, yet again. In addition the tiny Ruston was a bit
of a shock, I know how small they are as I have a 7mm model I built years back but they are a very useful little loco and if you can cram a stay
alive DCC unit in somewhere the conflat can be dispensed with. The 4th generation or is it really the 5th Princess pacific was expected by many
and most will love the six coupled Peckett.

… Quite how the competing Terriers and GWR Prairies will compare does not so much depend on quality but who is first on sale although at the
moment the Rails/Dapol version seems to be inheriting the faults of the 7mm version and the Hornby model looks to be a CGI creation at this
stage. Both have one annoying error which is a carry over from the original 4mm model and the 7mm version due to the use of inaccurate
drawings and lack of research.
 

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QUOTE (dwb @ 10 Jan 2019, 19:19) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I am tempted by the TTS P2 sound decoder.

David

I may be tempted to sell the TTS decoder from my P2....
 

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QUOTE (Allegheny1600 @ 12 Jan 2019, 12:11) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I must confess, the Peckett B2 is actually rather exciting to me! If it runs as well as the earlier 0-4-0 did and there's no reason to
assume not, then it should be a truly fantastic little model...
No sooner had I lucked in to a small HO 0-6-0T that looked suitable for 'Manning-Wardlisation' then Hornby spring this! It has taken a
long time for a 'smaller industrial 0-6-0T' than the rather hefty WD Austerity/J94 to emerge in RTR, but like you I expect this item will
do very well for Hornby. I am going to take a look when it is in stock to decide which way to jump. Definitely tempted.

QUOTE (Ray Sadler @ 19 Jan 2019, 20:17) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Already I hear the Peckett B2 has moved back from Q1 2019 to June 2019.
If it arrives in June, that will mean that the production run was a 'near miss' for getting completed before the near month of shutdown
that occurs centred around Chinese New Year. Just 'one of those things'. As a young man I was always puzzled by a favourite quip of
the general manager of a manufacturing operation that he had 'one year's experience of management', until the day he completed it for
me 'repeated twenty-seven times'. (Said in a somewhat world-weary tone of voice if you want the full effect!)
 

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Hi Folks At this point only an interim comparison between the Hornby and Dapol(Rails) Terriers can be made, especially as only about 20% of the Dapol version has emerged in
any form that can be judged. Sadly neither look like being the ground breaking highly accurate model that we have been waiting so long for. The Dapol model is giving every
impression of being a straight scale down of the 7mm model and unless there are to be many changes to that, we may get models with up to 40 detail faults. It is to be hoped
IEG "Yellow" and the green borders of the LBSC livery will be a more suitable colour as well. Some of the 7mm version faults are already visible on the mouldings shown to date.

…… The much more advanced Hornby model does now seem to be a livery sample on the "finished" tooling although corrections can probably still be made in some areas. Clearly
there are some faulty details at this stage such as the height of the exhaust steam domes on the front of the tank tops but the tank sides do look very good when compared with
the prototype. Something has gone rather badly wrong with the buffers however as the body is too short because the base is incorrect. Half of the base flange is actually part of
the buffer beam and the actual buffer base is quite thin. Clearly the splashers have been made over high on the curved section, surely this is not another case of the wheels
having been made to maximum size like the awful Dean Goods splasher. The Guard irons could have been made to look far better on the A1 even if account has to be taken for the
A1x sandboxes. The wheels are horribly plasticky but they do have a flare on the spokes into the hub contrary to what has been mentioned elsewhere.

I am looking forward to a lot more views of both models, especially the cab roofs as the Dapol 7mm and original 4mm versions just did not have that distinctive profile at all. I can
forgive faults on easily replaceable components but the roof just has to be right on a Terrier, especially as we look down on models far more than we do on the full size.

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Hi Folks The major problems facing the manufacturer of an accurate model of Stepney, just as a single example, is that during it's life it has had 4 different toolboxes and two
sorts of buffer. Indeed to cover most of the class over their lives at least 5 buffer types would be required but sadly the Hornby buffer is not amongst this set at all.
 

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Hi Folks Today's Hornby "Engine Shed" blog has seen some remarkable revelations regarding the Terriers. Even to the extent of showing
the huge suite of tooling options that have been made to cover as many as possible of the vast number of variations to be found on Terriers.

UNFORTUNATELY ……….. Whilst the pictures are of low resolution and it is clear that A1s; A1xs, IOW and other unique locos are going to
appear, it seems equally clear that a rather large number of catastrophic mistakes have been made which will render every version well below
the standard of detail recently set by Hornby. I may be wrong on some points as the pictures do not show clearly some areas in question but
my feeling is that this looks more like the sub standard Oxford Rail Radial than the Hornby refined version. It is equally clear that the point
has been reached where the cost of turning back and making corrections is now unaffordable. The latest pictures show what appear to be even
worse errors than those I already identified and the model will be a real "Curates egg" with some really "tasty" features but far too many that
are di-"stinkily off"
 

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Interesting to know that, Adrian. My favourite loco is, bizarrely, a Hornby Terrier in mainland Maunsell green (ex-Dapol tooling). Even I know some of its inaccuracies. I am toying with the idea of replacing it, although sentimental value, the fact that it runs well and financial pressure tend to mitigate against that. The retooled Terrier in the same livery has the same running number as the old one, which means that I would want to try my hand at re-numbering if I bought the new one.
 
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