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From what the Hornby Mag video said, this system seems to be very well thought out.
The decoders have a socket on them for attaching back up power - 9s worth I think. Note that's a socket and not some teeny weeny solder pads and the back up power pack is keenly priced. So that should address dead spots on the track. An additional advantage is that this is powering the decoder so the Bluetooth is still alive and you can control the loco.

There's a 'Legacy' (cheeky name ;) ) dongle which will connect the Bluetooth system into an existing system. The publicity material shows a Z21 as one potential target. I just had a look at the product page -
R7326 HM7040 - Legacy Dongle for existing DCC Controllers which tells very little but I did follow the link to https://d63oxfkn1m8sf.cloudfront.ne..._HM7000_Incompatible_Device_List_9-1-2023.pdf and noticed that my two year old Samsung phone is there alongside a lot of other Android devices. That's going to be a big blocker - not everyone has an Apple device.

Metal bodies - The new HD models have the socket in the tender and that's plastic? For that reason? Doubt it but ...

I think the emphasis from Hornby is that this is a cheap way to get into digital control. My guess is that Bluetooth is built in to just about every chip you might consider using for a decoder so it's effectively free. They've designed the power provision so that you can reuse an old Hornby wall wart. So your entry cost could be as low as a decoder and power adapter lead, just add a compatible phone and you are in business. No command centre costing hundreds of pounds.

For people starting out, or who only have a few locos it's a nice low cost entry point, and as the decoders can accept DCC signals via the rails, your investment is protected should you visit an NMRA DCC layout at a friends or a club or even upgrade yourself to a full system later.

But it's nowhere near a full system such as those from ESU, Roco and others. Just look at all the accessory decoders and detectors to get an idea of what's not there. It's pure loco control at the moment.

There is a full article on Key Model World but it's behind there paywall and Hornby Mag subscribers no longer get free access. Maybe it will be in the Feb edition but mine's not arrived yet.

David
Two items catch my eye, the Salmon wagons (I've loaded many of these in my time) and the streamlined B17/5.

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Delivery is two years away barring anymore global interference to manufacture/shipping/finance/etc. I would pre-order but I'd like to see what BR livery is chosen before I decide to purchase. How often have I dived straight in to buy a newly introduced loco but then, very shortly after being tempted to buy it again when my preferred livery is produced. I imagine that a B17/5 would look superb hauling a rake of Gresley 52'6" coaches (courtesy of the re-introduced Ian Kirk kits).

Best regards ........ Greyvoices (alias John)
Can't believe they are doing this, when I built my streamlined B17 a few years back I thought 'no one's ever going to make one of these...!! Typical! My one 61670 is in BR unlined black 'British Railways' on the tender, this was the last livery before the streamlined casing was removed and only one of the two carried BR black livery. It was the last one to lose its casing. The other one 61659 carried Apple green with British Railways on the tender before the casing was removed.
Also the valences over the driving wheels was removed during WW2 like the A4s and the shape of the remaining valencing around the cylinders was different on both locos. It will be interesting to see if Hornby do the wartime/post war versions correctly, if at all.
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In summary

Lots of new Dublo diecast Pacifics at silly prices or Railroad Diesels (Class 47 and 20) and a Bluetooth capable DCC system

Highlights

Deltic DP1, LMS 8F, Fowler Tank, B17 with A4 nose (which you could see on Sam's trains teaser still) Class 101 in Strathclyde orange.

From a personal point of view

LNER A4 Mallard, wanted an Era 3 Mallard for a while in upgraded form.
LMS 8F, again a much wanted upgrade from my 1988 model
Hornby Year wagon, got everyone since 1992
LNER Teak coaches announced - might get enough for a rake now

No missing Mk4 Coach M in BR Swallow livery
No LMS Crimson Coaches
No Pullman Coaches
More Beatles vans - I have to ask why?
Presumably the 8F is the super detail one brought out a few years back to replace the old tender drive one.
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Bogie bolster same type as the Mainline/Bachmann one (albeit 40+ years newer), Salmon in differing forms already done by Flangeway (but may have differences) and TTA already done by Bachmann. Originality 0 Copying 3
Hornby did the TTA before Bachmann so you could say they are updating their old model and it was Bachmann that 'copied'.... 😉
 

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Presumably the 8F is the super detail one brought out a few years back to replace the old tender drive one.
Make that 20 years ago! The photograph in Hornby's announcement is definitely of that model, and that coupled with no mention of 'new tooling' suggests it is this now rather dated item.

Comparison to Hornby's very neat O1 2-8-0 with its fully concealed drive train, more weight for traction, loco chassis fully isolated from the rails, no unnecessary and lumpen camming pony truck, no significant detail errors such as the non-existent valance on the Stanier tender: you get the picture, Hornby can do way better...
 

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Hornby did the TTA before Bachmann so you could say they are updating their old model and it was Bachmann that 'copied'.... 😉
I think you'll find that the current Hornby TTA goes back to the early 1980's but its predecessor goes back to the very early 1970's when it was a single-piece plastic moulding included in toy trainsets.
So yes, you are right, Hornby updating an old model.
 
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