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Have you noticed that per the catalogue Hornby will be selling a eathered BR 8F with a lined tender. I'm sure the graphics artist has got the 8F mixed up with the lined tender from a Black 5.

Apart from the prices , any other howlers?

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I love the new 2006 Hornby and will buy all the new models.

I do not know anything about modern computer images or printing so perhaps someone could tell me how it is done.

I have a Q1 so I scanned for the next one. What i couldn't figure out is how come all the locos point left but can show both sides?

Please do not be harsh, I still haven't done the rubics cube!

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I haven't got a copy of the Hornby catalogue to hand-so I can't check,but re the weathered 8F with the lined tender,if it's numbered as 48384 it's accurate!-there's a colour photo in the book 'BR Steam Surrender' by Roger Siviter showing the loco in this condition on the 28th March 1968...
Presumably it's own tender needed repair,so it acquired a Black 5 tender from a withdrawn loco,a lot of this sort of thing happened in the last days of steam,but although prototypical I can't see it having a very wide appeal.....


If you want a proper howler look at the description of the BR blue Cl.06 Diesel,-the description states that it's suitable for the period 1968-1973,but the photo shows it wearing a TOPS number on it's cabside..
Ho Hum!!

There's bound to be other cock-ups as well[there always are!] so I'll post more when I've had a proper trawl through the catalogue...
 

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QUOTE (DS239 @ 20 Jan 2006, 21:28)If you want a proper howler look at the description of the BR blue Cl.06 Diesel,-the description states that it's suitable for the period 1968-1973,but the photo shows it wearing a TOPS number on it's cabside.. Ho Hum!!

Your're absolutely right DS. I worked on these Locos in Dundee from 1979 to 1982. We had atleast 2 based at Dundee M.P.D. They were used for trip working to and from Dundee Docks. Class 08 wheelbase was too long for the extremely tight curves.
 

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QUOTE (DS239 @ 20 Jan 2006, 21:28)I haven't got a copy of the Hornby catalogue to hand-so I can't check,but re the weathered 8F with the lined tender,if it's numbered as 48384 it's accurate!-there's a colour photo in the book 'BR Steam Surrender' by Roger Siviter showing the loco in this condition on the 28th March 1968...
Presumably it's own tender needed repair,so it acquired a Black 5 tender from a withdrawn loco,a lot of this sort of thing happened in the last days of steam,but although prototypical I can't see it having a very wide appeal.....


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A lot of this actually happened a bit earlier as well- 8Fs were seen with Lined green tenders (!) in the late 1950s when LMR Jubilees were given the Stanier tenders off 8Fs. Other such incidents no doubt occurred!
 

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The 8F in the catalogue is actually 48739,but I presume Hornby have a photo of it running in this condition..

R2423 -the Hymek in BR blue,no D7067,period "late 1970's"according to Hornby,- but this loco was withdrawn in October 1971!

R2524 -the GWR railcar,no 29,period "1930's",say Hornby,who in the same description state "built 1941",which is correct...

There's bound to be more..now you would think,wouldn't you,with Hornby being the number one 'name' in UK model railways that they'd take the trouble and get these details right before going to press,these silly mistakes just make them look 'slapdash' and amateurish,hardly doing them any favours in the credibility department...
 

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There is one non-railway 'howler' in the Skaledale range on page 151 of the 2006 catalogue, in their new 'Canal Collection'. The canal boat, described as a "Butty" boat is actually a motor boat, judging from the long cabin at the rear which would have housed the boatman, his wife and some of the family and the engine powering the boat; also from the style of the tiller for steering at the rear of the boat. The "Butty" was an unpowered craft towed by the motor boat; it had a shorter cabin only for living in and the tiller was a completely different design. Now, Hornby, repeat after me.....

Other than this error, I have to say that the ready-made canal items certainly look very attractive, although I am uncertain how the joins between sections can be disguised.
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QUOTE although I am uncertain how the joins between sections can be disguised.

My thoughts exactly - I was wondering whether I just use the lock section, the make the rest out of resin.
 

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Interesting description of R2513 the lima class 156 as being in northwest regional railways livery err who? Regional railways went bye bye around the start of privatisation and First northwestern are now part of the massive Northern rail franchise just like wot it do say on the tin so to speak.

I've also noticed the free recommended price list has a few items missing including a price for City Of Wells.
 

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Re the price for 'City of Wells' - it's in the "Totally New Model - Steam Locomotives" section, bottom of the centre column on page 1, 5th line up.

To save you looking it up it's £105!

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I figured it would be about that price. The real thing is undergoing restoration at Haworth and the last time i saw it the air smoothed casing was being prepared for refitting. It really looked weird without it, all lumpy with huge rivets averywhere. Don't know what condition it is in now as the engin shed seemsto have been closed since the flood in August 2004 which incapacitated 25059. A pity really but it is the case at most preserved railways in these health and safety obsessed days. Probably cost too much for public liability cover.
 

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Just come across a classic as highlighted on another forum.....
page 33 A4 Woodcock is going to be.....
Powered by a 5pole ringfield tender drive motor!!!
Someone at hornby wants their ass kicking for that one.
 

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I was examining my two models of c35 Hymek Green/white cabin - one model c35 is Hornby whilst the other c35 is Heljan. The cabins apparently are different in size of window glazed frame.
Can anyone enlighten me as to which model is correct - Hornby or Heljan or are both incorrect?
 

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This picture from Wikipedia will help you with your comparison. The Hornby model was considered to be state of the art when introduced in 1967. I wonder if Hornby are planning a special 40th anniversary commerative edition for 2007 in a preserved livery?:-



I only have the Hornby example to look at. The Hymec is one of my all time sentimental favourites firstly because it was my very first model diesel in 1968 when I got a Freightliner Train Pack for Xmas and secondly it does have a slightly continental Gallic look to it and I did like those big old French diesel locomotives as they make a terrific whistling sound when pulling away as the turbo chargers cut in.

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The Hymek has to be my alltime favourite diesel even though I've never seen a real one,. This is something that I couldn't figure out as I don't really like diesel locos of any description and until the new generation of Hornby ones came out I only had my old ringfield powered green Hymek, but one day whilst clearing some stuff out of my parents attic I found my brothers old Railway Series books and started leafing through them for old times sake, then low and behold Bear joined the gang and what should he be but a Hymek. Strange how you can like something for all these years and have no idea why.
 

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Just spotted another probable cock-up in the catalogue apparently the brand new £140 pendolino is going to be powered by....
A type 7 motor.
Don't believe me then turn to page 27 and weep.
 

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Also if you put R2467 into the website nothing comes up for it. Maybe someone at hornby has noticed the gaff and removed the offending item. Or has it gone the same way as the live steam 2 tender scotsman?
In addition to this in contrast to your own announcement that all the lima releases this year are going to be dcc ready and have lights neither the catalogue or website state this as being the case.
Have hornby bitten off more than they can chew this year and are they being forced to back pedal a bit?
 

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QUOTE apparently the brand new £140 pendolino is going to be powered by....
A type 7 motor.

Just in case there is a bit of confusion lets remind ourselves that the set includes the DCC control unit and track and has a RRP of £140 so the loco probably has the value of a Class 43 HST Train Pack (£70-£80). It is intended as a starter EMU and not a high detailed high spec model.

As stated elsewhere just because this is a 3 pole motor does not make it a bad motor. It is compact and may be very suitable for this model which is likely to have a motor bogie. If the gearing and pick up is right then then the Pendolino will run fine in DCC mode. No doubt Hornby will do what is right for the model.

Live Steam Double Tender cancelation does not surprise me at all as it was really only going to be colonials who might have an interest in this as a result of all the foreign trips made by Scotsman in this mode. And the colonials to be blunt want a Live Steam model that looks like a colonial prototype.

Hornby are certainly doing a lot more this year than last year and no doubt everybody is very excited at Hornby towers and rushed off their feet. Surely from their customers perspective its better to have a catalogue that has limited information in some areas and a massive programme than a perfect catalogue and a limited programme.

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This wasn't the set loco but the seperate train pack none DCC equipped version. Looking through the price list it isn't on there. You might be happy with a glorified scalectrix motor but for a brand new set id've expected at least a ringfield .As I say it isn't on the website and maybe it won't come into production at all.
 
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