QUOTE (alibuchan @ 28 Dec 2006, 01:22) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yes they should get things right but hornby did say that they would only be producing these quickly so as to get some return on the lima deal. They were always going to be a Hornby Basic range until they could find time in the production to fully update them.
I am pretty sure that on the detail side of things Hornby have used pictures and most probably 1:1 stock and it just happens that on these examples this is how they looked.
It was the same with the Bachmann Limpet in Dutch livery with the intercity logo that wasn't believed to be true until they released the picture of the wagon with the logo on it.
Alistair
Alistair, the main difference is that a lot of these models have very silly mistakes - no matter how quickly they were produced. The BR blue 121 - Hornby's photographic evidence was a photograph of a 122! The NSE 121 has incorrect warning flashes and the wrong shade of NSE blue, the class 67 has missing air horn (I think) grilles, whilst the class 73 bodies are on the chassis the wrong way wrong (not to mention the underscale buffers - despite Lima having tooled up correctly-sized larger buffers for the 73/1). These mistakes are pretty inexcusable - how could a design team (or designer) mistake a 122 for a 121, given his or her job? NSE Blue has been correctly replicated by Hornby on the Class 50, so why not on the 121? Lima managed to print the horn grilles on 67, so why not Hornby? Who authorised the 73s for production with the bodies the wrong way round, or, alternatively, why was the opportunity to correct this passed up by the factory? There would have been no need for Hornby to mould anything anew, just to remove and refit the bodyshells.
Now, I would be amongst the first to admit that Hornby have produced some quality stuff (particularly for SR modellers like myself) but some pf the Limby releases just smack of sloppiness. Perhaps a different factory or design team (novices?
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I am pretty sure that on the detail side of things Hornby have used pictures and most probably 1:1 stock and it just happens that on these examples this is how they looked.
It was the same with the Bachmann Limpet in Dutch livery with the intercity logo that wasn't believed to be true until they released the picture of the wagon with the logo on it.
Alistair
Alistair, the main difference is that a lot of these models have very silly mistakes - no matter how quickly they were produced. The BR blue 121 - Hornby's photographic evidence was a photograph of a 122! The NSE 121 has incorrect warning flashes and the wrong shade of NSE blue, the class 67 has missing air horn (I think) grilles, whilst the class 73 bodies are on the chassis the wrong way wrong (not to mention the underscale buffers - despite Lima having tooled up correctly-sized larger buffers for the 73/1). These mistakes are pretty inexcusable - how could a design team (or designer) mistake a 122 for a 121, given his or her job? NSE Blue has been correctly replicated by Hornby on the Class 50, so why not on the 121? Lima managed to print the horn grilles on 67, so why not Hornby? Who authorised the 73s for production with the bodies the wrong way round, or, alternatively, why was the opportunity to correct this passed up by the factory? There would have been no need for Hornby to mould anything anew, just to remove and refit the bodyshells.
Now, I would be amongst the first to admit that Hornby have produced some quality stuff (particularly for SR modellers like myself) but some pf the Limby releases just smack of sloppiness. Perhaps a different factory or design team (novices?
