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Hornby Maunsell Coaches

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Hi OO members
Has anyone found how to get these coaches apart,as I would like to fit some passingers,Hornby won't tell me for some reason.I hope someone can help.

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Morry.
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I don't have the Maunsells other than a van BY, but all the other recent coaches from Hornby (Pullmans, Gresleys, Staniers) share the same construction. Look on the underside both ends (probably need to swing the bogies aside), and there are four transparent clips coming through the floor. Additionally midway along the body side there is a concealed clip. Ease the body side away from the chassis in the middle of the vehicle, identify the clip, and put in a thin slip of card to stop it re-engaging. Do the same either end adjacent to the clips which come through the floor. Use a narrow bladed screwdriver to disengage these clips. Repeat other side, remove body. When reassembling check that body, interior and chassis are all in the correct orientation.
QUOTE (morrycook @ 26 Sep 2008, 20:41) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi OO members
Has anyone found how to get these coaches apart,as I would like to fit some passingers,Hornby won't tell me for some reason.I hope someone can help.

From.
Morry.
Its very easy .!!! you just drop it from about 3 feet onto a concrete floor .Amazingly the only damage was the 4 lugs holding the body on .They broke for some reason ,which was odd as they were not exposed to direct force ,but at least I found out how to take one to bits .I shall detail the interior at some point and then use Thixo glue to hold it all together .I was amazed that all the fine detail survived .
QUOTE (34C @ 26 Sep 2008, 20:11) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't have the Maunsells other than a van BY, but all the other recent coaches from Hornby (Pullmans, Gresleys, Staniers) share the same construction. Look on the underside both ends (probably need to swing the bogies aside), and there are four transparent clips coming through the floor. Additionally midway along the body side there is a concealed clip. Ease the body side away from the chassis in the middle of the vehicle, identify the clip, and put in a thin slip of card to stop it re-engaging. Do the same either end adjacent to the clips which come through the floor. Use a narrow bladed screwdriver to disengage these clips. Repeat other side, remove body. When reassembling check that body, interior and chassis are all in the correct orientation.

Thanks for that,I will give it a try.

Regards
Morry
QUOTE (rossi @ 27 Sep 2008, 00:18) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Its very easy .!!! you just drop it from about 3 feet onto a concrete floor .Amazingly the only damage was the 4 lugs holding the body on .They broke for some reason ,which was odd as they were not exposed to direct force ,but at least I found out how to take one to bits .I shall detail the interior at some point and then use Thixo glue to hold it all together .I was amazed that all the fine detail survived .
Rather than glue, first find out if the two bodyside clips have survived; they may hold well enough to keep the coach together. If they are not enough, cement a plastic block inside the body shell each end, and run a self tapper through the underfloor into these to hold body to chassis. Always better to be able to get inside easily just in case a passenger gets loose.

You were lucky with the way it fell, the coach probably pretty much landed on its' wheels, and as the plastic chassis and body flexed relative to each other, all the energy was focussed on those clips, which is why they broke. I had a coach land end on from my four foot above concrete floor layout, and ended up with two useable bogies, and some salvageable detailing parts!
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Hi

The Maunsells can be tricky little buggers. As suggested above but remove the nem couplings first as they have a habit of getting in the way. Have a look at the pictures and you can id the location of the de-tens or clear plastic clips.

Tou will need some slight pressure when removing the body as you work each clip I suggest pussing on the buffers, that what I do as their are a lot of parts that easily break.

Maunsell coach see the 4 clear tabs each end



Interior remobed 2 more tabs in the centre





If your going to add passengers why not add lighting you get a great effect!



Flicker Free kit from DCC Concepts passengers by plessier and coach by Hornby.

m
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QUOTE (Martin71 @ 27 Sep 2008, 14:36) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi

The Maunsells can be tricky little buggers. As suggested above but remove the nem couplings first as they have a habit of getting in the way. Have a look at the pictures and you can id the location of the de-tens or clear plastic clips.

Tou will need some slight pressure when removing the body as you work each clip I suggest pussing on the buffers, that what I do as their are a lot of parts that easily break.

Maunsell coach see the 4 clear tabs each end



Interior remobed 2 more tabs in the centre





If your going to add passengers why not add lighting you get a great effect!



Flicker Free kit from DCC Concepts passengers by plessier and coach by Hornby.

m

Hi Martin.

Thanks for the info & pics,I will try and give it a go.

Regards
Morry.
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yup, I used cocktail sticks inserted between carriage side and underframe beginning above the bogies and passed right through to the other side of the coach... then gently shuffled towards the centre unti lthe clips gave there. Didn't feel a scapel wd work as I'd already weathered them and didn't want a slip/ nick. The passengers are easy then to get in, though quite hard to see once they're there- if you need a lot, you can but 100s of 1:100 figures very cheaply on ebay, they're meant for architects models, but for our use, repaint and just cut the legs off just below the jacket and they sit at about the right level... they scale at 5' in 4mm but in 1958 there were plenty of 5'5" people about...

One question, while the coach is apart- the interiors can be seen to have cream panels on the corridor side, very visible in photos. Does anyone have the dimensions of these panels, please- I'm assuming they were roughly the same height as the windows are and have dark wood 2" OR 3" around to hold them in. Either I'll mask them off & paint or print coloured labels of the right size for sticking on...

Thanks
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just to add: http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell...2/mk1/3064.html gives link to BRMk1s, Bulleids & Maunsells on the bluebell Railwayt- lots of inside info, but none on cream panels! Gives an idea too of how high to set the passengers, ie where to cut their legs off...
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Presumably they are legless after visiting one of the Bulleid Tavern cars!


I took apart a brake composite to replace the windows and it came apart relatively easily. I released the clear tabs at one end forst, pulling the solebars downwards as I did so, then repeated at the other end, finally I spread the sides at the centre of the coach to release the solebars and underframe fully. Just work slowly and patiently with just a modicum of brute force!

For the record, I didn't break anything!!!!
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Thank you very much to 34C and marshlander. Don't think that I would have got my carriages open without your advice.
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QUOTE (Richard Lee @ 5 Sep 2012, 00:42) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thank you very much to 34C and marshlander. Don't think that I would have got my carriages open without your advice.


I think I'm in the same boat! Time to order passengers!
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