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Hornby releases InterCity coaches and other items.

THE LATEST PRODUCTS to arrive from Hornby, which include the company's well regarded scale-length Mk. 3 vehicles in 1980s-style InterCity Swallow livery, as well as the first releases of the much anticipated 'King Arthur' steam locomotive, are as follows.

D&E Era Items of interest:
R4294 Mk. 3 First Class (FO) coach - InterCity Swallow No. 11021
R4295 Mk. 3 Standard Class (TSO) coach - InterCity Swallow No. 12143
R4296 Mk. 3 Buffet (RFM) coach - InterCity Swallow No. 10209
R6335 PCA Depressed-centre tanker - Albright & Wilson livery

Locomotives:
R2556 NCB Class J94 0-6-0ST steam locomotive Wilmblebury
R2581 BR Class N15 0-6-0 'King Arthur' 30764 Sir Gawain - Early BR (weathered)

Rolling Stock:
R4289 BR Centenary brake coach - W4578W
R4290 BR Centenary composite coach - W6661W
R4292 GWR brake coach - 5121
R6350 20-ton brake van - Railfreight B955156
R6360 WD 20-ton tanker - 339
R6361 BR ore wagon - B386569

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Apologies for resurrecting this post but...with the advent of the new OR Intercity Mk 3a's I was searching for the above Hornby Mk 3s and they seem a) rare and
command a high price

Was it because they are a good product?

Is the new OR Mk3a only suited for loco hauled whereas the Hornby coach was designed for the HST?

I was also trying to recall which locos would have carried the Intercity Swallow livery...Class 90? Class 47?

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I'd say they are very dated, lacking the features of the newer steam age stock from both Bachmann and Hornby, and only command a high price by virtue of being the only game in town. Hornby should be able to knock these out at Railroad pricing as the tooling will be long amortised, dates from Margate production. A lot hangs on how good the OR mk3 product turns out to be; we haven't seen them attempt a coach yet, and it hasn't been plain sailing so far on their other models.

That said the most recent wagon is competent: looks and runs well; the brakegear error easily corrected, and this error is on a par with boobs which Bach and Hornby have committed on equivalent product. If their mk3 project - which I believe commences with the loco hauled types - achieves this standard or better, then it is potentially something of a game changer as OR's pricing is competitive to win them market share.
 

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QUOTE (34C @ 8 Oct 2016, 15:01) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That said the most recent wagon is competent: looks and runs well; the brakegear error easily corrected, and this error is on a par with boobs which Bach and Hornby have committed on equivalent product.

On inherited or long outdated product maybe, but I don't think either of them have managed to get an entire wagon side the wrong way round yet. I'm struggling to think of any recent steam era issues with any significant errors.
 

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QUOTE (stuartp @ 8 Oct 2016, 17:09) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>On inherited or long outdated product maybe, but I don't think either of them have managed to get an entire wagon side the wrong way round yet. I'm struggling to think of any recent steam era issues with any significant errors.
Bachmann have cheerfully hung incorrect brake gear arrangements under their 16T minerals with some regularity, and their fairly recent BR cattle wagon is a scale foot wrong in length. Hornby have more recently blessed us with the 'Blue Spot' fish van, and given the roof too small a radius. Considering how early on we are in Oxford's journey into OO, in which they are having to break into a market now operating with a much higher standard of expectation than prevailed when Bach and Hornby started on their 'better stuff' from 2000, I feel they are doing reasonably well. (I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn from their principal that it is tougher going than he expected; diecast model vehicles an order of magnitude less challenging than similar scale model railway vehicles in my opinion.)

The specific OR wagon I am looking at as evidence of improvement is what I believe is the most recent, the LNER design 6 plank. This is far and away the best I have seen from them, and sits alongside kit built models of the same vehicle very happily; the simple correction of unplugging the brake gear, moving one set to the other side, and adding a morton clutch representation if desired sorts it (and a spare set of brake gear goes in the spares box).
 

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It will be straight up 'interesting' to see how Oxford perform on the mk3s. I hope their principal realises that he is jumping into the bear pit with this choice of product. The mauling given the Heljan class 86 - a model in my opinion no worse than their manifestly wrongly proportioned class 47 with which they entered the UK market - shows how expectations grew over the first decade of the all newly tooled Chinese sourced products. The mk3s have got to be right in all significant respects. It's potentially a big win if Oxford succeed...
 
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