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QUOTE It had to be done though. It was either that or bankruptcy.

At least we still have Hornby.

Yes but if the level of defects is as Triangman reports then they will be in difficulties anyway.

I have bought or been given Hornby and before that Triang since 1965. They always had a reputation for value and reliability . They designed locos that could pull trains . I have to say on all three counts todays Hornby is sadly lacking

Reliability: Covered by Triangman but I have to say is mirrored by my own experiences where my last three purchases (Duchess,8F ,Princess) have had to be returned and replaced because they failed.

Value for money? The old Lima models at £60 when Vitrains can produce a brand new 37 for £50. Whatever you think of the Vitrains model the spec is way ahead of the Limby stuff . £70 for a rehashed 156 (The strathclyde one is even the wrong colour) when the same price will easily buy a Bachmann 108 , superbly modelled with lights! £ 80 for an M7 when a Fairburn costs £60, £25 for a Stanier coach (with poorly fitted windows- going back to the quality issue) while Bachmann Mk1s come in at £18

Haulage power : reports of new 5 pole motored Limby stuff unable to pull full trains- even reported in Model Rail (73 and 59 reviews). GWR 4-2-2 with reported limited haulage power- The old Triang one was better!

Finally we seem to have a company thats become very greedy and margin obsessed. They chose to develope their own DCC instead of buying in tried and tested technology. They tried to force everyone to buy a chip with all new locos(increased margin for them). Their track prices are very high (compare the cost of points with Peco Streamline!)

Basically this company needs to do better or it will be caught out when people have to tighten their belts!

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There are some quite large variations in pulling power.

Clan Line - Superb pulls 7 coaches (the max in my layout ) with ease, even up gradients
Wilton (BR West Country). Very lightweight - struggles with 4 on up a slight gradient.
Duchess - Again very good
Princess - Similar to wilton struggles with 4 on.

Now you would have thought most of the above would have similar haulage powers - but they don't!

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