Joined
·
155 Posts
Hi
does anyone know how to convert Hornby's R2306 King George VI loco which is a DC into a DCC please?
![]()
does anyone know how to convert Hornby's R2306 King George VI loco which is a DC into a DCC please?
Hornby R2306
1 - 12 of 12 Posts
Joined
·
1,275 Posts
Is this loco tender drive? ie with a Ringfield motor.
Ozzie21
QUOTE (KODIAK BEAR @ 9 May 2007, 07:11) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi
does anyone know how to convert Hornby's R2306 King George VI loco which is a DC into a DCC please?
![]()
Ozzie21
QUOTE (KODIAK BEAR @ 9 May 2007, 07:11) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi
does anyone know how to convert Hornby's R2306 King George VI loco which is a DC into a DCC please?
It seems R2306 was 'The Caledonian' Train Pack with a Super detail Duchess/Princess Coronation loco in BR Green.
In theory, this SHOULD be DCC Ready with an 8 pin socket, however, my experience with recent Hornby Train Packs is that they do seem to penny pinch by not fitting a socket. It's true, my Silver Fox A4 Train pack required the use of a soldering iron, as there was just a gap on the chassis where the DCC socket should be
![]()
In theory, this SHOULD be DCC Ready with an 8 pin socket, however, my experience with recent Hornby Train Packs is that they do seem to penny pinch by not fitting a socket. It's true, my Silver Fox A4 Train pack required the use of a soldering iron, as there was just a gap on the chassis where the DCC socket should be
Joined
·
155 Posts
QUOTE (ashleyh @ 9 May 2007, 10:44) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It seems R2306 was 'The Caledonian' Train Pack with a Super detail Duchess/Princess Coronation loco in BR Green.
In theory, this SHOULD be DCC Ready with an 8 pin socket, however, my experience with recent Hornby Train Packs is that they do seem to penny pinch by not fitting a socket. It's true, my Silver Fox A4 Train pack required the use of a soldering iron, as there was just a gap on the chassis where the DCC socket should be
![]()
![]()
where would the DCC be ashley ? the loco or the tender ?
dont want to take it to bits to much as its 1 of 3000 loco's made and if i break something i will be
![]()
off
In theory, this SHOULD be DCC Ready with an 8 pin socket, however, my experience with recent Hornby Train Packs is that they do seem to penny pinch by not fitting a socket. It's true, my Silver Fox A4 Train pack required the use of a soldering iron, as there was just a gap on the chassis where the DCC socket should be
where would the DCC be ashley ? the loco or the tender ?
dont want to take it to bits to much as its 1 of 3000 loco's made and if i break something i will be
Does the Hornby service sheet help? They normally answer any questions about taking locos apart.
http://static.hornby.com/files/ss-260c-233.pdf
Happy modelling
Gary
http://static.hornby.com/files/ss-260c-233.pdf
Happy modelling
Gary
QUOTE (Gary @ 9 May 2007, 15:04) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Does the Hornby service sheet help? They normally answer any questions about taking locos apart.
http://static.hornby.com/files/ss-260c-233.pdf
Happy modelling
Gary
A service sheet will help yes, but it is not a King Class loco, rather a Princess Coronation/Duchess (The sheet for this is also on the Hornby website)
http://static.hornby.com/files/ss-223e-77.pdf links to the sheet for a version without a DCC socket.
I too was initially misled by the name, but then looked up the train pack using the R number.
If there is a DCC socket, then it will be in the loco, but my recommendation to you, as you are understandably cautious about dismantling it, is to take the loco to a specialist dealer who can fit a DCC chip for you whether it has a socket on the chassis or not.
Regards
AshleyH
http://static.hornby.com/files/ss-260c-233.pdf
Happy modelling
Gary
A service sheet will help yes, but it is not a King Class loco, rather a Princess Coronation/Duchess (The sheet for this is also on the Hornby website)
http://static.hornby.com/files/ss-223e-77.pdf links to the sheet for a version without a DCC socket.
I too was initially misled by the name, but then looked up the train pack using the R number.
If there is a DCC socket, then it will be in the loco, but my recommendation to you, as you are understandably cautious about dismantling it, is to take the loco to a specialist dealer who can fit a DCC chip for you whether it has a socket on the chassis or not.
Regards
AshleyH
Joined
·
155 Posts
QUOTE (ashleyh @ 9 May 2007, 15:22) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>A service sheet will help yes, but it is not a King Class loco, rather a Princess Coronation/Duchess (The sheet for this is also on the Hornby website)
http://static.hornby.com/files/ss-223e-77.pdf links to the sheet for a version without a DCC socket.
I too was initially misled by the name, but then looked up the train pack using the R number.
If there is a DCC socket, then it will be in the loco, but my recommendation to you, as you are understandably cautious about dismantling it, is to take the loco to a specialist dealer who can fit a DCC chip for you whether it has a socket on the chassis or not.
Regards
AshleyH
It is a tender drive Ashley
kind regards
http://static.hornby.com/files/ss-223e-77.pdf links to the sheet for a version without a DCC socket.
I too was initially misled by the name, but then looked up the train pack using the R number.
If there is a DCC socket, then it will be in the loco, but my recommendation to you, as you are understandably cautious about dismantling it, is to take the loco to a specialist dealer who can fit a DCC chip for you whether it has a socket on the chassis or not.
Regards
AshleyH
It is a tender drive Ashley
kind regards
Joined
·
1,275 Posts
If it is a Princess Coronation then it's an old one as they have been loco drive for quite some time, 2001 I think. If it is tender drive then the DCC socket will be in the tender. But I would think that given the age of this loco there would be no socket so you would have to hard wire the decoder in place. This requires some skill so it would perhaps be best to take it to a hobby shop that specalises in fitting decoders.
Ozzie21
QUOTE (KODIAK BEAR @ 10 May 2007, 03:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It is a tender drive Ashley
kind regards
Ozzie21
QUOTE (KODIAK BEAR @ 10 May 2007, 03:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It is a tender drive Ashley
kind regards
I'm pretty sure if it's an R2306 then it is the loco drve super detail model.
I could be wrong, but I'm looking at one on Ebay at the moment.
Item number: 330115820026
However, in either case, the best advice any of us can give is to find a dealer who ofers a DCC chip fitting service.
Good Luck!
AshleyH
I could be wrong, but I'm looking at one on Ebay at the moment.
Item number: 330115820026
However, in either case, the best advice any of us can give is to find a dealer who ofers a DCC chip fitting service.
Good Luck!
AshleyH
Joined
·
155 Posts
QUOTE (KODIAK BEAR @ 9 May 2007, 18:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It is a tender drive Ashley
kind regards
Well i have had an email from hornby themselves on 9/5/07 that stated that my loco was tender drive !!!!!!
Well, i have just pulled out the loco from the wardrobe today and hey presto, hornby do not know their arse from their elbow !
it is a loco driven model.
so, how easy would this be now to turn it into a DCC everyone ?
do i need a degree in quantum physics or can anyone do it ?
kind regards
Well i have had an email from hornby themselves on 9/5/07 that stated that my loco was tender drive !!!!!!
Well, i have just pulled out the loco from the wardrobe today and hey presto, hornby do not know their arse from their elbow !
it is a loco driven model.
so, how easy would this be now to turn it into a DCC everyone ?
do i need a degree in quantum physics or can anyone do it ?
Joined
·
5,598 Posts
Even easier. One draw back with this model is the tender pick-ups are on only one side of the tender ! A bit of a Hornby throw back this one.
Select a nice small decoder, as this one is going inside the loco. Please get a reliable make, Lenz ( mini gold or silver ), Digitrax DZ143, TCS (M1 MC2), ZTC (403 ? ) all make excellent micro decoders with a good peak amp load. Remove all the Hornby confetti around the motor and snip off the wires from the motor. It's then it's simply Red and black wires from the decoder to the pickups one of them is a brass washer located on top of the gearbox cover. The orange and grey wires are soldered to the motor terminals. Tidy up your wiring and secure the decoder with double sided tape. Please use shrink tube for the joints, insulation tape will unwind and cause a short. If you use a lenz decoder protect the decoder with a shroud as they don't have a protective sheaf. You don't say which DCC system your using so we assume you change CV's with your system.
![]()
![]()
Select a nice small decoder, as this one is going inside the loco. Please get a reliable make, Lenz ( mini gold or silver ), Digitrax DZ143, TCS (M1 MC2), ZTC (403 ? ) all make excellent micro decoders with a good peak amp load. Remove all the Hornby confetti around the motor and snip off the wires from the motor. It's then it's simply Red and black wires from the decoder to the pickups one of them is a brass washer located on top of the gearbox cover. The orange and grey wires are soldered to the motor terminals. Tidy up your wiring and secure the decoder with double sided tape. Please use shrink tube for the joints, insulation tape will unwind and cause a short. If you use a lenz decoder protect the decoder with a shroud as they don't have a protective sheaf. You don't say which DCC system your using so we assume you change CV's with your system.
Joined
·
13,704 Posts
QUOTE (Makemineadouble @ 13 May 2007, 18:38) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If you use a lenz decoder protect the decoder with a shroud as they don't have a protective sheaf.
Just one small point - Lenz specifically advise not to enclose the decoder completely - quote (from Lenz) "Never wrap the decoder in insulating tape as this prevents the necessary air circulation around the decoder".
A shroud will be OK, provided it is not tightly wrapped round the decoder. We have had a couple of failed Lenz decoders in for repair where they have been completly taped over.
Just one small point - Lenz specifically advise not to enclose the decoder completely - quote (from Lenz) "Never wrap the decoder in insulating tape as this prevents the necessary air circulation around the decoder".
A shroud will be OK, provided it is not tightly wrapped round the decoder. We have had a couple of failed Lenz decoders in for repair where they have been completly taped over.
1 - 12 of 12 Posts
