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Has anyone actually bought any railroad items yet and if so what are you intending to do with them?
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No, although the Flying Scotsman at that price would not be a bad replacement for my THornby A3 from the 70s. I understand its loco powered too.

Good luck to Hornby with this range. Hope it doesn't deflect them from moderating the prices of their main range or are we going to see the usual £5-£10 annual increase again.

I bought the 'Scotsman' £43, and a pack of six shell tankers for £17 from Hattons.

The engine is Loco powered, and the tender looks as if it was originally the powered one, as it has two wheels with tyres, and cogs on two wheels, and is very heavy. The tender also has pick-up on all wheels, and this is fed back to the loco by the coupling.

I have run it in with no problems on DC, and will shortly convert it to DCC.

The tankers are fine for what I want, though I have changed the wheels to metal to make them run better. They travel three times further on metal with the same push.
They work out at £3.53 complete. Not bad Eh!!.

Soon I will be buying the LMS Jinty to run with 4-wheeled coaches for a micro layout I'm building. What the heck, it'll also run on the huge club layout too!
A mate has bought the EWS hoppers plus the tankers and they look fine. It's a great way to build a cheap rake.
I don't think it'll affect the main range and what they plan to release at all but it looks like they will substantially increase the Railroad range. Hornby are the only manufacturer to really be able do this as they must have a huge 'bank' of former tooling.
It's a shame they don't now own the rights to the name Tri-ang as I'd prefer that but it's a small matter.
I have quite a bit on order but it hasent filtered down to mee yet! there would appear to be huge demand for it.

And christmas is comming!

QUOTE It's a shame they don't now own the rights to the name Tri-ang as I'd prefer that but it's a small matter

Hornby should buy back the rights and market the range as Tri-ang Railroad. The Tri-ang brand has far wider recognition overseas than the Hornby brand. It seems a no brainer to me. I don't see why Hornby haven't already done this?

Happy modelling
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Great idea Gary. Could also tap the nostalgia market. Models such as the Caley 4-2-2 could be released under this range creating a diffirential between the highly detailed Hornby range (King Arthurs etc) and the older models.

Presumably triang is not available - might it have passed to Palitoy at some stage. Don't know who owns it now.

Have just fitted a decoder to the 'flying Scotsman'. The decoder used was a Lenz Silver L10331.
For those interested, here is how it went.
Removing the loco body was was very easy. There are two screws, one under the front wheels, and the other is the screw holding the tender coupling hole. Note that they are different threads, and which end they go. Holding the loco upright, allow the front wheels to drop down, and then pull forward. This will release the loco body from the rear lug at the bottom of the cab. Job done.

You will now see some red and black wires. One set of red/black comes from under the body wheel pick-ups, and the other set from the tender connector.
These two sets of wires join two black wires from the motor. A capacitor is across these wires. Cut the middle of the two black wires between the red/blacks and the capacitor.
You now have the ends of four black wires. Snip the capacitor on one of its wires if you do not want it, but leave it connected to the other wire in case you reconvert to DC.
The two long black wires connected to the short piece of black are the RIGHT wheel pick-ups (looking at the front of the engine from the rear). The two red wires with the short black are the LEFT wheel pick-ups. On the Lenz decoder the red wire goes to the red wire, and the black wire to the black wire (too easy !!). However, on a Hornby decoder this is reversed according to their leaflet.
The grey wire of the decoder goes to one of the black wires to the motor, and the orange wire to the other.
The lenz decoder I used has an eight pin plug connected. This was removed leaving a short amount of wire to solder onto the loco wires. You can use any decoder that has wires only. I used the Lenz because I use ABC. The Lenz standard would connect the same.

It is best now to put the chassis on the rails to test it. If it goes in reverse, then simply cahnge the motor wires over or change CV29 whichever is easiest.
When testing is complete, locating the decoder is a breeze. The loco chassis is the one used for DCC. It has a well in the centre of the chassis with two screw posts. This is where Hornby fitted the socket for DCC ready locos, and fitted a decoder in the DCC fitted.
I sat the decoder diagonally on its side (this is a large decoder 23mmx16.6mmx3.5mm so you can see that anything will fit.
Insulate all your connections, and tape down the loose wires to make a neat bundle. Fit the loco body back on ensuring the rear lug is connected in properly, and replace the screws. Job done.
The loco ran very quite and extremely well. It also has a good top speed, had to slow it down by CV 5. It pulled 4 coaches up an incline 330cm long to a height of 8cm. (would not do five).

Total cost was Loco £43 and decoder £17 - £60 for a DCC fitted loco. Very good value for money.

When I tried to DCC a 'Battle of Britain' loco recently, it was a nightmare. The body was very tight, bits fell of as soon as you touched it, and there was only space for the tiniest decoder, and then the body cracked open at the end, so it went back. And it was twice the price.

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I've bought a selection of rolling stock from the Railroad range now.

Very nice units they are too, I bought some decent wheels for them (£2 for 6 pairs I think it was) and weathered them, turns a £10 set of 3 wagons into a selection that could have been bought for £15 each.

Brilliant idea from Hornby, and great for anyone wanting to build up their rolling stock.

QUOTE (Gary @ 15 Nov 2007, 11:41) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The Tri-ang brand has far wider recognition overseas than the Hornby brand. It seems a no brainer to me. I don't see why Hornby haven't already done this?

Hornby certainly is better known internationally now with the general public due to the Hornby International branding on all the ranges they took over like Rivarossi, Arnold etc. They are keeping those range names alive but under the umbrella Hornby name. That's sensible marketing as they now have a respected quality in their own products and associated with those ranges they have bought which also have a reputation for quality. Triang is associated with the old style models and running quality so probably not the best image to make in a new era.
Nice to see them using the old moulds and selling at a good price for starting modellers.
Good luck they certainly have benefitted from the modern paint processes on the railroad models.
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I have bought the diesel goods set, i fitted a Hornby decoder and it works a treat. Also got the crane again very good for £12! and the LMS loco again fitted a decoder. All in all great value for money. Please bring some more models!!
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