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Hornby/Rivarossi BR58 v Roco BR58

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I wonder if the new Rivarossi BR58 is selling in large enough numbers to make the Roco version old hat ?

This occurred to me as I did my weekly Fleabay trawl last night - there are 3 Roco BR58's on UK Fleabay alone this week !
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QUOTE (dbclass50 @ 9 Mar 2008, 08:54) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I wonder if the new Rivarossi BR58 is selling in large enough numbers to make the Roco version old hat ?

This occurred to me as I did my weekly Fleabay trawl last night - there are 3 Roco BR58's on UK Fleabay alone this week !

It may happen, once Hornby has improved on quality. Apart from these issues, the Hornby engine is very good.

I wasn´t the only disappointed modeller who got burned with the Hornby product, and quite a few wrote about their experience in the forums. I fear that many modellers are hesitant to buy the Hornby, especially since Hornby Germany´s CEO, Mr Heilmann, has announced a model where these issues will be taken care of. This statement has been published in several German magazines, which makes offline modellers aware of it as well, not only forum dwellers.

In my book, this is an open admittance that the current offering is sub-average, and that Hornby is aware of that fact. Not a good entrée to the German market imho, and even less a good way to sell off the current, quality-challenged stock. Meaning many modellers will hang on to their tried and tested Roco engines at least until the improved Hornby class 58 engines will appear in the shops.

Just my two Eurocent.

P.S. I´d have wished for a better German entrée, both for Hornby and the model railroaders interested in an exceptionally detailled class 58.
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I cancelled my Rivarossi Br58 order.We don't have a local shop that, if found faulty, I could take back to ,as ME 26-06 did.Too risky at the moment.
Better to wait and see if Hornby is going to do something abt the problems encountered.
However, it will always be in my agenda.

Baykal
if ever there was a loco that really needed to be a good one.....

Very sad. though at least they are doing something about it. i wonder what would have happened if the select had been released in germany?

Peter
QUOTE (pedromorgan @ 10 Mar 2008, 09:10) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i wonder what would have happened if the select had been released in germany?

Peter

They would probably have used them for rumble strips on the edge of the autobahns !

(Someone else suggested that the first decoders be used for surface dressing, so it would be quite fitting.)
Well Brian it is one use for it.

However spending GBP70 for something that is only useful for running over is a bit excessive.

John
What's wrong with the Roco model?

I have one and I think it's splendid...good looking, runs like a top, a nice little machine. What am I missing?

Mark in Oregon
Your basically replying to a dead topic here, the last post prior to yours was March 2008
That could very well be...but that doesn't answer my question.


I am new to this Forum, and I believe the question is still valid...anyone?

Mark in Oregon
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Hi Mark,
A valid question indeed as far as I can see.
Unfortunately I cannot answer it but I would certainly like to see the answer.
Cheers,
John.
Hi Mark, welcome to the Forum.

The original post was an idle speculation. The poster noticed three Roco BR58's on ebay in one week, and speculated whether this was happenstance/co-incidence or related to the recent introduction of an alternative model. Personally, I rate Roco products highly, and evidently so do you, so that answers the question really.
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John: Thank you; I was beginning to think that my signing on here may have been a mistake. Say, I recognize your photo from another forum!


Mike: Thank you as well. I'm finding these Roco models are as good as the Atlas or Kato offerings (which are considered the "Gold Standard" here in the States...)

OK, I guess now I'll let this topic be "dead"...


Mark in Oregon
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