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QUOTE (Daz @ 24 Sep 2008, 01:02) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>..But do people really want this kind of detail?
..What I would prefer is a closer tender and loco gap coupling system - But that just me.
The detail that matters for my taste is what is seen when the loco is running. Distinctive components like a regulator or brake handle that could be seen through cabside windows on some classes, or the prominent reverser wheel on the Schools class very visible from the rear of the loco, are well worth having as they add to the character of the model seen in action. But detail I cannot see falls into the 'unnecessary' category. That same Schools should have a third cylinder and motion between the frames, but it is no less a good model for the lack of that essentially invisible detail. But I suppose Hornby know what their customers want and tailor the package to suit.

Wanting better close coupling isn't just you! Hornby introduced a neat arrangement on their Britannia, and the service diagrams for the T9 and Schools show a similar linkage on these locos: a drawbar, supplemented with a plug in electrical connection. On the Britannia it was a couple of minutes work with a file to cut down the moulded on intermediate buffers on the tender front to get the Brit round my 36" mainline curves on the scale distance setting. With the loco and tender so well modelled having them running at scale separation iced the cake.
 

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QUOTE (dwilson9 @ 30 Sep 2008, 10:10) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>.. Who will win the battle of the 4MTs? I'd be surprised if there's a huge demand, ..
A poor choice to go 'head to head' on: Hornby have so many popular 'possibles' among numerically large long lived classes already in their range in need of renewal to current standard; the class 47, 28XX, Fowler 4F all leap to mind. But instead they go for a small short lived BR class; if they wanted a pop at Bachmann's BR steam standards the BR5 would have been a much better choice, as this model has been the subject of criticism for slow running, and incorrect cab roof shape, and was a considerably more common and widespread loco. I also cannot help but notice that online the Bachmann BR4 has evinced relatively little interest in terms of volume of comment compared to other recent loco releases.

Will there be a sudden outbreak of common sense at Margate? Hornby mention in their current shareholders annual report that getting timely production capacity has been a challenge. When production capacity is tight, you have to look at what will yield maximum profit from the available capacity. That means concentrating on the fastest selling lines, and if the HST, T9 and Schools (none of which have any competition) go really well, the business decision would be fairly obvious...
 

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QUOTE (Purley Oaks @ 30 Sep 2008, 15:33) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I guess that Bachmann and Hornby have got their 2009 catalogues well underway by now, so the current economic climate could see a significant reduction in new models for 2010; neither manufacturer will be taking chances with their new models.
That is a whole other thing! There's nobody out there who can predict exactly what is going to happen. While a manufacturer is still employing an R+D team they can still be busy with the process of developing new models, even if it is not certain when those models can be put into production. Bear in mind that it is new introductions that generate a large proportion of a model manufacturers sales over the first couple of years from launch. Without new models in the pipeline there is no potential for strong future profits: so it's a risk worth taking to keep the new model development going. If the market holds up, all well and good, if there is evidence of reduced spending then the rate of introductions runs somewhat slower.

Funny thing about recession, it is very uneven in its' effect. Some businesses actually do better, particularly those that deal in reasonably economical entertainment and fantasy. People can't afford the fancy holiday or other costly luxuries, so those businesses feel the pinch; but people still want fun, and if it can be found at a lower price they will still spend on it.
 

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QUOTE (BRITHO @ 1 Oct 2008, 16:49) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>With the two main players now producing most of the BR standards, most major diesels, and a large chunk of the big fours top link classes, the problem is surely going to be what to produce next. Assuming that all manufacturers are in business to make a profit and thus keep share holders happy, where are the new products coming from? ..
Locomotives, big and glamourous, never previously available RTR:
P2 2-8-2
Duke of Gloucester
Locomotives, singularly beautiful, never previously available RTR:
Cardean
Claud Hamilton
Dunalastair
Stirling single,
Ivatt Large Atlantic
LNWR Jumbo
GWR Armstrong
Stroudley Gladstone
Locomotives, big useful freight types
ROD/O4
NER T 1, 2 or 3
GWR 47XX

And those are just a few of my favourites, once the present ranges have all been brought up to a decent standard. How is it the GWR Castle for example isn't available to the standard of the King Arthur or Britannia? I can only conclude that enthusiasm for the products of Swindon is no longer what once it was...

I am totally bemused at the lack of any LMS suburbans. We have practically the complete LMS to BR 2-6-4T development available, and no typical matching coaches until well into the BR era?
 

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QUOTE (paftrain @ 2 Oct 2008, 22:04) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>However, down South we are still waiting, very patiently, for an Unrebuilt Merchant Navy - any version (at least three versions, not including the prototypes) and any livery (at least four - Southern Malachite, Black, BR Blue, BR Green)....and please not a bodge job of re-badging a WC/BB like Wrenn and Graham Farish!
Surely that's just a Merchant Navy, or original Merchant Navy? Graham Farish offered one in OO, so it's been done, and presumably didn't find enough takers since it disappeared from the catalogue ever after.
It would seem an obvious prototype for Hornby to offer.
 
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