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Reading Model Rail's 100th edition, I found I could read the announcement of Hornby's new locos as either only available with a decoder or as an either / or.

The only way to be certain is to do a Jeremy Paxman or Eddie Meyer on Simon Kohler at the London Toy Fair next week and ask him "Will the new LMS locomotives be available 'decoder free' or not - a simple yes or no?"

I'm sure that's near the top of Doug's list.

PS. I do hope someone from Hornby marketing reads these threads - sometimes............
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