[Babz]

Hi Everyone I have just bought my first Hornby model for over 45 years. I liked the look of the model and as i travelled a lot on the LNER in the 60's behind Deltic's I thought I would treat myself to a British Brand for a Change.
Has anyone have this model yet. I do know they have had issues with the smoke Deflectors breaking in Transit and they are addressing them as I phoned my order they assure me things will be okay. Babs

 

[cbrooks122000]

Hi Everyone I have just bought my first Hornby model for over 45 years. I liked the look of the model and as i travelled a lot on the LNER in the 60's behind Deltic's I thought I would treat myself to a British Brand for a Change.
Has anyone have this model yet. I do know they have had issues with the smoke Deflectors breaking in Transit and they are addressing them as I phoned my order they assure me things will be okay. Babs

Yes, I got this model from Hornby. I was one of the lucky ones, although they packed it pretty badly it arrived undamaged. It runs really nicely, but after watching Sam's video, I going to have to check mine again.

 

[Graham Plowman]

...but after watching Sam's video, I going to have to check mine again.

I wouldn't rely on Sam's videos if I was you. Some of his latest videos are really weird and going 'off the rails' !
You are likely to get far better results with your own evaluation of the model you have in hand!

 

[cbrooks122000]

I wouldn't rely on Sam's videos if I was you. Some of his latest videos are really weird and going 'off the rails' !
You are likely to get far better results with your own evaluation of the model you have in hand!

You are right some of his latest videos are definitely "off the wall" but some of them are usually pretty right. A lot of the reviews he has done I have compared with the same loco I own and he usually right. On this one he definitely got a bad one it kept stalling and not going right. Fortunately mine doesn't do that. He is right about the front steps they fall off incredibly easily, mine did just that by putting it back into the "ice pack".

 

[34C]

The most reliable assessment of models is the general feedback online. You know up front that this covers a spread of owner expertise and expectations, and it is usually quickly obvious if there is a major problem or problems, some minor issue(s), or essentially trouble free: and this isn't restricted to 'at release' alone; emerging problems like mazak rot, wear out and other failures, are picked up over time. Better yet, the more informed participants typically analyse problems, and propose or even specify and/or demonstrate solutions.

 

[kristopher1805]

I will have a BR later version with the Bugatti streamlining which father rode on once from Peterborough to Doncaster, said not as fast as an A4 streak but certainly could pull a heavy load and do so rather quickly, so I look forward to these being available. (along with the similar P2.)

 

[34C]

...along with the similar P2.

Which I also want in BR green late crest. We will need to pester Hornby for that.

 

[Babz]

Good Morning Everyone, IIRC Hornby will be doing a green one in the near future I thought I saw it on the Hornby Website. Babs

 

[34C]

Good Morning Everyone, IIRC Hornby will be doing a green one in the near future I thought I saw it on the Hornby Website. Babs

The W1 as it finished service, yes, that will be BR green late crest as it was when withdrawn. (To be succeeded on its regular London-Leeds return duty by the gorgeous Feench blue Deltic prototype loaned to ER by EE, while the production series order was processed and constructed, there was some quite significant redesign to meet BR(ER) requirements.)

But the P2's were all vandalised before BR was formed, so never saw BR green. What I want is a streamlined P2 as it might have appeared in a fictional BR lined green late crest livery. (I am prepared to put 9MT on the cab side sheets myself, or maybe 9P10F; as the mood takes me. ) Hopefully Hornby can be persuaded so I won't have to pay a specialist painter for this job.

 

[dwb]

To be succeeded on its regular London-Leeds return duty.

oh rats! Now I've got to buy one...
David

 

[34C]

Oh you so must!

I first saw this machine as a boy in short trousers as it first announced itself by the rapid wa-ah-wa-ah-wa-ah engine beats, and then came into view in low strong evening sunlight which made the body appear deep lilac, and rather fabulously appeared to be floating, (the bogie frames must have been dirty) and woof! past it went on the way to KX. Subsequent sightings revealed that the body colour varied according to ambient lighting. I took the NRM model up to Welwyn tunnels to see if it matched the cornflowers there in morning sunlight, as the prototype did, and BINGO!

Magical, almost compensation for the loss of Doncaster's wide firebox traction; ER should only have equipped with Deltics for all express traffic, in a livery scheme devised by EE, rather than BR's boringness. Sigh.

 

[dwb]

it first announced itself by the rapid wa-ah-wa-ah-wa-ah engine beats

Something like this?

I didn't go looking for it, it got suggested ....

David

 

[reddo]

My Grey W1 arrived 10 days ago Babz from Cheltenham MC after the cancellation by Rails when they lost the franchise. I have also ordered the Apple Green version direct from Hornby as I joined the Collectors Club with the 10% discount and free shipping all the way to SW France. Having seen the unboxing on Sams Trains (who I skip the inane videos), I have emailed Hornby Customer Service, Marketing and Coll Club Editorial to ask them to explain how these will be packaged as my gut instinct is they are removed from the China cartons in the Goods Inwards, then chucked across the aisle and stuffed in individual boxes for shipping out before xmas and to get the billing done. I hv not yet received any reply...

 

[6991]

Somebody (34C) please clarify.......
I was always of the impression that the nickname 'hush hush' was something to do with the weird noise it made.
Others are now saying it was called 'hush hush' because its 'development was secret' - but this is highly unlikely given that plans were drawn up in 1927 or so, and it wasn't completed until the early 30s.
Come on 34C enlighten us.
I saw it at Kings Cross in around 1958, I remember the day with clarity, end of platform 10 at the head of an express.
6991

 

[34C]

...I was always of the impression that the nickname 'hush hush' was something to do with the weird noise it made.
Others are now saying it was called 'hush hush' because its 'development was secret' - but this is highly unlikely given that plans were drawn up in 1927 or so, and it wasn't completed until the early 30s...

I am far to young for direct knowledge! The writings available are pretty consistent. Gresley went to Harold Yarrow, prop. of the engineering business of that name in 1924, and between them a water tube steam loco boiler design was secretly worked up and constructed over the three years to 1927, and patented jointly in Yarrow and Gresley's names: that was the 'hush-hush'* aspect. The complete compound loco emerged in 1929, and was constantly experimented with until rebuilt in 1937, emerging as a conventional Doncaster 3 cylinder simple with a fire tube boiler.

The water tube boiler was not scrapped, went to Darlington and was used until 1966 for plant steam supply. This suggests that as a static steam raiser it was a good performer.

*The term 'hush-hush' = secret, keep or kept secret,was much in vogue in the 1920s.

 

[kristopher1805]

OK so as per the Hornby boss Simon Kohler in his launch of P2 the background picture shows a later version which was built with Bugatti streamlining as by then Gresley had become very friendly with Etore Bugatti, so if this was not intended for P2 then why have this as a background blow up? so yes a ficticious late BR P2 Bugatti would do for me along with the late BR W1 an excellent pair of locos but really more than 1 - I think not1

 

[PAPPA.B]

Hi Ok i love steam engines but some are just ugly it may be just me but this loco In my opinion is ugly . The A3, A4, just look beautiful if a steam engine can be described as such and most of the rest of LNER engines are good looking as well . I know this may well be a little of topic as the talk is about the model and not the actual engine but for me Steam engines are what inspire me about the railways . What do you think is any one else have any thoughts on this?

 

[dwb]

I don't like the look of the W1 either but it was a prototype and a lot the shape is governed by the boiler.
For looks, the V2 with internal steam passages to the cylinders is my favourite.

David

 

[34C]

... love steam engines but some are just ugly it may be just me but this loco In my opinion is ugly ... any thoughts on this?

The incomparable Douglas Self can aid your relative assessment with his wondrous 'Loco Locomotives' compilation. The W1 appears in the section 'The Pressure is on, etc.' and for my money is one of the tidier design outcomes from trying to get a water tube boiler onto a steam locomotive.

Loco Locomotives.

The Douglas Self Site, steam locomotive, Shay, Climax, Mallet, Garratt, Turbomotive, Reid-Ramsey

www.douglas-self.com

The other sections are worth a look too...

 

[PAPPA.B]

Some interesting loco's I think the W1 4-6-4 wheel configuration looks well balanced the smoke box looks ok its the tidy boiler I don't like . As for the V2 gets my vote.