Surely at the end of the day its all down to pick up and gearing and would I be right in saying it is better to question this rather than the motor?.
If you want slow running then appropriate pick up and gearing are essential. Manufacturers must be aware of this. And wheels also are critical if you are running on code 75. You are probably going to have to change the proprietory wheels as they may not work on Peco Streamline points and then the workmanship is down to you and not the manufacturer as you will be tampering with pick up and possibly gearing if the wheels fitted are of a different diameter.
And the quality of the track laying is a key factor when operating locomotives. Too many people jump up and down and blame the running qualities of the loco on the manufacturer when it may well be down to the track.
Even so called poor motors mentioned here seem to run perfectly well when using my old H & M Duette controller which has a variable resistance switch and a current wave switch. No motor is poor (in my view). It is the contoller that is poor and a good one with plenty of adjustments for resistance (helping with fine control) and wave cycles (pulse to stop motor stalling) is all that you need. The issue here is that DCC does not appear to be able to replicate these features and you cannot operate electrical track cleaners with DCC suggesting DCC will never be able to replicate these features that are a big benefit of analogue control. I don't buy this "motor is critical" type discussion. If anything older motors are probably better engineered. And the old Hornby 0-6-0 chassis complete with central traction tyres introduced in the 1980's had such a good pick up due to its design that Hornby patented the design and the design is still in use to this day. Now for some reason Hornby did not use this patented design in the Class 08 and I blame the rivet counting mob for that. Notwithstanding this retro (money saving?) move by Hornby the little Class 08 shunter is a very good DCC runner and never stalls.
To answer the question about the Class 58 the gearing may be a little high for slow running with DCC however the motor and pick up are sound. You may need to change the wheels though for running on code 75 track and this may affect pick and performance as you might be forced to abandon the traction tyres (another DCC horror) which will impact pulling performance. However plenty of room to add weight.
So how would you adjust the gearing and what about the wheels?
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Happy modelling
Gary
If you want slow running then appropriate pick up and gearing are essential. Manufacturers must be aware of this. And wheels also are critical if you are running on code 75. You are probably going to have to change the proprietory wheels as they may not work on Peco Streamline points and then the workmanship is down to you and not the manufacturer as you will be tampering with pick up and possibly gearing if the wheels fitted are of a different diameter.
And the quality of the track laying is a key factor when operating locomotives. Too many people jump up and down and blame the running qualities of the loco on the manufacturer when it may well be down to the track.
Even so called poor motors mentioned here seem to run perfectly well when using my old H & M Duette controller which has a variable resistance switch and a current wave switch. No motor is poor (in my view). It is the contoller that is poor and a good one with plenty of adjustments for resistance (helping with fine control) and wave cycles (pulse to stop motor stalling) is all that you need. The issue here is that DCC does not appear to be able to replicate these features and you cannot operate electrical track cleaners with DCC suggesting DCC will never be able to replicate these features that are a big benefit of analogue control. I don't buy this "motor is critical" type discussion. If anything older motors are probably better engineered. And the old Hornby 0-6-0 chassis complete with central traction tyres introduced in the 1980's had such a good pick up due to its design that Hornby patented the design and the design is still in use to this day. Now for some reason Hornby did not use this patented design in the Class 08 and I blame the rivet counting mob for that. Notwithstanding this retro (money saving?) move by Hornby the little Class 08 shunter is a very good DCC runner and never stalls.
To answer the question about the Class 58 the gearing may be a little high for slow running with DCC however the motor and pick up are sound. You may need to change the wheels though for running on code 75 track and this may affect pick and performance as you might be forced to abandon the traction tyres (another DCC horror) which will impact pulling performance. However plenty of room to add weight.
So how would you adjust the gearing and what about the wheels?
Happy modelling
Gary
