Very interesting eBay figures Gary. In NZ they don't use eBay much but Trademe has 1327 items, proportionately more than Australia. I could only find two listings on NZ eBay!Maybe the weather is a factor in participation. I have several Hornby-Lima German bogied coal hoppers I picked up at the last Brisbane show. Perhaps they're struggling to get enough factory space in China, or the job is bigger than first thought. The packaging is dark blue with Lima loco but I'm afraid I'm too thick to photo and post.