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In other news, the leaders of Europe's biggest countries will gather in London tonight to discuss the crisis engulfing the model railway industry.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy will join Italy's Romano Prodi and EU Commission boss Jose Manuel Barroso at a Downing Street summit hosted by Gordon Brown.

So in advance of their meeting the 2008 catalogues have been released. See the post below.
 

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Thanks for those links.

Check out the Lima. South African re-releases.





The don't look anything different to the old models. Perhaps the motor has been updated. Anyway, I'm still happy about it.
Quite a bit of Australian stock in the Lima range too.

Jouef have some fantastic modern trains and autorails. The World Speed Record TGV is there too.
 

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QUOTE (Doug @ 29 Jan 2008, 14:47) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks for those links.

Check out the Lima. South African re-releases.

The don't look anything different to the old models. Perhaps the motor has been updated. Anyway, I'm still happy about it.
Quite a bit of Australian stock in the Lima range too.

Jouef have some fantastic modern trains and autorails. The World Speed Record TGV is there too.

Looks like the coaches may have close coupling mech's. If these pics come from Hornby it shows that they have a habit of showing daylight through their models - a slightly different angle would probably look better, but less honest ?

Now, a question - I assume that these are 3.5mm/ft scale running on 16.5mm track, so does that make them broad gauge ? (if memory serves me SA is 3'6").
 

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QUOTE (dbclass50 @ 29 Jan 2008, 18:10) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Looks like the coaches may have close coupling mech's. If these pics come from Hornby it shows that they have a habit of showing daylight through their models - a slightly different angle would probably look better, but less honest ?

Now, a question - I assume that these are 3.5mm/ft scale running on 16.5mm track, so does that make them broad gauge ? (if memory serves me SA is 3'6").

The couplings, from these photos, look like the original.

Yes, to model SA rail properly, or as near to the original as possible, you need HOm track that has a 12mm gauge.
 

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There are some interesting details in those catalogues - sound for at least one steam loco and one diesel. One steam loco has been designed to take a smoke unit. Frequent use of "power" couplings to provide for lighting carriage interiors and on at least one model in DCC mode, the interior lights can be switched on and off separately from the driving lights.

Hornby have been very busy.

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Looks very nice. Just shows how big the Hornby range has become.

I like the BLS Re4/4 in the Rivarossi cat. Reminds me of happy days at Interlaken

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I just so have to get a complete rake of those epochII CIWL coaches. They are stunning. They really are.

That SAR coach depicted reminds me of a freinds place in Bloemfontein. His dad and his two mates were outfitting a yacht and figured it was cheaper to buy an old coach and strip the wood from it to use rather than buy all the wood. So they bought one and it sat in his garden in large sections for ages until it had been completely dismantled.
 

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I could be tempted by that record holding TGV


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Looking through those took my breath away. Hornby must be the largest model railway company in the world now. Some very impressive looking products.

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Awesome stuff! Loads of great French and Luxembourg makes in Jouef!
 

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In terms of profitibility or size of product range, or both?

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QUOTE (80class @ 30 Jan 2008, 10:07) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>In terms of profitibility or size of product range, or both?

Rob
Bachmann and Maerklin are far bigger in terms of product range and annual gross profit turn over. I'm not sure about net profit though. Hornby may have had the edge in net profitability a couple of years back but it's unlikely now with the changes that have been made.
 

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QUOTE (neil_s_wood @ 29 Jan 2008, 23:33) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Bachmann and Maerklin are far bigger in terms of product range and annual gross profit turn over. I'm not sure about net profit though. Hornby may have had the edge in net profitability a couple of years back but it's unlikely now with the changes that have been made.

Thanks Neil,

I wonder where Hornby will be in 5 to 10 years time? If they are approximatly the second/third biggest in Europe at the minute is there scope for them to take over the top spot or will they be lucky to hold onto their position I wonder...

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QUOTE (80class @ 30 Jan 2008, 10:40) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks Neil,

I wonder where Hornby will be in 5 to 10 years time? If they are approximatly the second/third biggest in Europe at the minute is there scope for them to take over the top spot or will they be lucky to hold onto their position I wonder...

Rob
This is why the German market is so important. If you are to be number one in Europe you will need to be highly placed in the German modelmarket which is Europes largest. If Hornby are to become the biggest in Europe they will need to succeed in Germany, at this point they are only starting but their first effort seems quite good.
 

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they are very impressive catalouges and i dont want to be a pessamist but are these going to be available for us to buy? i mean actually purchase? with money?

Lots of wagon lits and many in the blue and cream livery that i love.

Interesting and different stuff from lima. i wonder what the prices will be.

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QUOTE (pedromorgan @ 30 Jan 2008, 16:34) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>they are very impressive catalouges and i dont want to be a pessamist but are these going to be available for us to buy? i mean actually purchase? with money?

I would guess that they'll become more generally available after the Nurnberg show.
 
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