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Latest Hornby service sheets - M7, Britannia, and Class 67

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http://www.hornby.com/dwnlds/service_sheet...0Class%20M7.pdf

http://www.hornby.com/dwnlds/service_sheet...Class%207Mt.pdf

http://www.hornby.com/dwnlds/service_sheet...0%20CL%2067.pdf

Does this mean the imminent arrival of these models? Also notice how Hornby have modified the loco/ender coupling on the Britannia. Looks like the optional distance that you get with Bachmann models combined with the tender pick-ups that have been a trademark of Hornby models.

Regards,

Dan
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if it arrives in 1 piece it will be better than the lima!!

Peter
QUOTE (37197 @ 5 Sep 2006, 08:09) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Just read MRE this morning and they are quoting that the Lima Class 67 crossed with a Hornby Class 50. A new chassis (separate fuel tank/weight section that screws onto the chassis), 5-pole skew wound motor, better motor mounts, 'DCC ready', lights, pick ups on all wheels and Class 50 style gear trains on both bogies driving all axles, all sounds very hopeful B) .

Do bear in mind though that the MRE posting was just someone's interpretation of the service sheet, not an official press release from Hornby.
QUOTE (pedromorgan @ 5 Sep 2006, 09:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I thought the ribbing down the sides had been corrected. it was only the rivit counters that complained about it. aparently it had the wrong number of ribs.
It didn't bother me at all; compared with the rest of the old problems, that one is trivial.

QUOTE for the record it was totally the wrong colour as well!At least hornby are doing fantastic paint jobs these days.


QUOTE "Who were the people who supposedly lobbied Hornby for an early re-release of ex-Lima models?
W****rs !! "
for heavens sakes. you seem to have completly missed the point. its better than what we have now which is a load of lousey models at collectors prices. and it wasnt early re-release. we have been waiting 3 years!!We'll have to disagree on that one. Personally I'd rather have waited to get models to the standard of the 50, 31, 08/09 and 60.
With Hornby's recent record of releasing 1 or 2 new diesels a year, I don't think the wait wouldn't have been too long.
What worries me, is if these models sell resonably well, we can kiss goodbye to any chance of better versions.

QUOTE ...this is a NEW company we are looking at. they will want to make a good impression.What new company are you refering too?

New Lima has nothing to do with these British outline models; they're branded as (British) Hornby.

QUOTE Anything has to be better than the Lima.

QUOTE if it arrives in 1 piece it will be better than the lima!!

At least that shouldn't happen now.

Maybe I'll be pleasantly suprised?
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With reference to the supposed retooling of the ex-Lima Class 67,-I downloaded the service sheet and took into work where a colleague and I compared an actual Lima Class 67 chassis to Hornby's service sheet drawing...
Our conclusion: No retooling has taken place at all,-just some ammended fittings,-the pcb board is different [to incorporate the DCC socket],and the lighting boards at each end are different [looks like an LED instead of the little bulb in a holder]..

QUOTE (37197 @ 5 Sep 2006, 08:09) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Just read MRE this morning and they are quoting that the Lima Class 67 crossed with a Hornby Class 50.
No sign of any Class 50 bits.
QUOTE A new chassis (separate fuel tank/weight section that screws onto the chassis)
No!,-wrong!, the Lima one is exactly the same.[with screw-on fuel tank containing the weight]
QUOTE 5-pole skew wound motor,
Possibly,....but judging by the drawing it appears identical to the Lima one,-even down to the four 'dimples' on top of the motor casing......[The Lima version might already have been 5-pole,-I'm not sure!]
QUOTE better motor mounts,
Identical,-although,hopefully,they're made of stronger plastic than the Lima version!
QUOTE 'DCC ready', lights,
See comment above.
QUOTE pick ups on all wheels and Class 50 style gear trains on both bogies driving all axles,
Exactly the same as the Lima version,-it already had these features,-they're not new.....

Now,obviously,We can do a better comparison when we get our hands on an actual Hornby model,but,without wishing to 'blow our own trumpet',-I think our conclusions are closer to the mark than the original post on the MRE site! [From a so-called 'service sheet expert'!!]
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[quote name='DS239' date='5 Sep 2006, 19:50' post='11598']
With reference to the supposed retooling of the ex-Lima Class 67,-I downloaded the service sheet and took into work where a colleague and I compared an actual Lima Class 67 chassis to Hornby's service sheet drawing...
Our conclusion: No retooling has taken place at all,-just some ammended fittings,-the pcb board is different [to incorporate the DCC socket],and the lighting boards at each end are different [looks like an LED instead of the little bulb in a holder]..
No sign of any Class 50 bits.

Indeed there is a posting on MRE today from 'Simon Evans' rebutting yesterday's interpretation of the service sheet. The internet's a wonderful tool isn't it ;-) .

Whilst I am more than al ittle wary of posting this remark, I couldn't help a little wry smile when reading Pat's comment elsewhere in today's update "We have received the following press statement from Bachmann:" - I thought Bachmann weren't doing that sort of thing any more......
The lights seem to be a solitary bulb/LED at each end?
That's rubbish!
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QUOTE (Oakydoke @ 7 Sep 2006, 17:28) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The lights seem to be a solitary bulb/LED at each end?
That's rubbish!


Well there's a summary from the horse's mouth ( i.e. Simon Kohler) of the changes Hornby have made to the ex Lima 67 in today's MREmag.
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And thats a superb response from Hornby. It may not be what some wanted to hear but lets give credit for a good, honest realistic reply.
Personally after all the speculation I think we should wiat and see what we get. I personally will be happy with any improvement on the Lima mechanism.
Someone told me the bodyside ribbing is all wrong, but I wouldnt know if that was true?

I have two Lima 67's and next to other loco's (66, 37, 47, 57 etc) they look too big and chunky. The real prototype loco looks quite slim and petite.
Anyone know of a scale drawing in print anywhere ? ( know the real things aren't that old so maybe there isn't one ) Otherwise we're stuck with guessing, which isn't ideal

[/quote] thought Bachmann weren't doing that sort of thing any more......
Glad to see they are. And I trust will do so with this forum
On a slightly different note Rails are showing two of the M7's to go with the service sheets on their website in early and late crest BR black.
QUOTE (spongebob @ 8 Sep 2006, 20:26) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>On a slightly different note Rails are showing two of the M7's to go with the service sheets on their website in early and late crest BR black.

Yep!,-Hornby say two versions of the M7 are with them [BR versions],..so despatch to the retailers is imminent........
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