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Liliput SNCF 140_C_314 - Review & DCC installation

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I've been testing and tweaking a wonderful model over the last few days.

A model of a classic British made loco that still runs today on a historic railway.

Click here for the review.
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Yet another good review Doug, and of a rather attractive prototype. If I could think of a reason to buy one I think I would seriously consider it. Thanks for taking the time.

Regards
The overall outline and configuration of the loco reminded me of one we had seen at Reims station so I was intrigued to read the review. The example at Reims is numbered 140 C 313 but it clearly has a different chimney. According to Wikipedia three manufacturers were responsible for building this class of 270 locomotives over a five year period. The original German manufacturer lost the contract due to the outbreak of war in 1914. Two British companies took over from them. Apparently six of the class are on the seabed off the north Cornwall coast.

Another fine review Doug and interesting insight to what we might see in the future from Bachmann for tender mounted decoders.

Here's the photo of 140 C 313 at Reims:


David
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Doug, that is a simply brilliant review of a really lovely model - full marks!

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I think that when the locos came back from Germany after WWII, they were extensively modified and updated. In those days, I don't think they were too fussed if they had different chimneys. Another loco of the same type with a Nord smokebox door.
See this photo:



The 140_C_314 is standing next to the PO 4352 (Paris-Orléans region) which is number 230_G_352 built in 1922 also by North British in Scotland.

The loco 230 G 352 was also at Gray in the 70's, see another image taken in the 80's here.

It turns out that this loco is now also in St Quentin being restored by the CFTV. Good for them.

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David, here is a photo for you taken in 2004 of the 140_C_314 next to the 140_C_313 that has been a static display at the Reims station since 1977.
Nice review and loco Doug, very informative.

Continental locos as a rule don't have painted cabs, even Brawa ones however I suspect Micro Metakit may well do.

It's amazing where locos from the North British works turn up. I used to travel a lot and in many countries they would have an old steam loco out the front of the main station. I used to always check these to see if they were Scottish built and a lot of them were. I have seen locos here in Melbourne from the North British works. Including this R class below; you can see the badge on the smoke defelctor.



Theres a really interesting DVD you may be interested in which shows the manufacture of a loco, an SAR 19D as it happens, at the North British works. It's amazing how these were put together and shipped.
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Nice review Doug thanks - hopefully it will run better with time & not be like the Chinese built Liliputs that I have had recently.

BTW - is it a completely new model or a reworked "Liliput Liliput" ?
QUOTE David, here is a photo for you taken in 2004 of the 140_C_314 next to the 140_C_313 that has been a static display at the Reims station since 1977.

Thanks for that Doug.


David
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We went to Saint Quentin today, not to see the trains, but for our kids to participate in an open water swimming race.

After hanging around for a few hours, the race was called off because the water was too cold. It was 14.5° C instead of the 16° C minimum outlined in the rules. I was prepared to kick the kids in, but the organisers didn't want any problems so we called it a day.

As we were in the area, we popped in to the train preservation club (CFTV), the home of the 140_C_314, to see if there was anything going on, but it was an off-day there too and nobody was in. Here are a few snaps anyway taken of some of the equipment - there is so much to see there in various sidings along the line, I need to go back on a good day. The 140_C_314 was in the shed and couldn't be seen from outside unfortunately.




Everything looks a bit run down, but the good stuff is inside the shed.


The entrance to the CFTV yard off the Saint Quentin to Origny line.


This is the tender to the latest loco to join the association, the PO 4352 (Paris-Orléans region) which is number 230_G_352 built in 1922 also by North British in Scotland. See picture of the locomotive higher up in this thread here.


The diesel shunter used by the association to move things around. See other photos of this in use here.
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That certainly looks like it could make for a good day out - when the sun shines of course! Mind you the general layout looks like many preservation sites I've been to in the UK, and just as overgrown in places.

Interesting photos Doug - thanks for posting them.

Regards
QUOTE That certainly looks like it could make for a good day out - when the sun shines of course!

It's within easy reach of Calais and St. Quentin is on the A26. Anyone such as yourself who lives in Kent and can get an early crossing, could probably have a good day out. At 130 miles from Dover it's too much of a stretch for us


David
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QUOTE (dwb @ 8 Sep 2008, 18:28) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's within easy reach of Calais and St. Quentin is on the A26. Anyone such as yourself who lives in Kent and can get an early crossing, could probably have a good day out.

Thanks for that David - Ididn't realise it was that close to home.

Regards
QUOTE Thanks for that David - Ididn't realise it was that close to home.

and I didn't think to check before we went on holidays. We were staying in a Logis in Coucy-le-Chateau Auffrique for three nights. St. Quentin is about 45 minutes drive north but with not knowing about it we drove to Troyes instead on one of the days. Troyes is nice but it doesn't have stream engines


David
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Remember this, we were trying to get some interest, but nobody could decide on a week-end. See the links for other trains in the area. Some good stuff.
http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/k2H5gOkjH7xk3dNwwE&colors=background:DEDEDE;&related=1

Take a look at this video of the sound decoder test. Richard from DCC Concepts kindly loaded the sounds into a v3.5 ESU LocSound decoder and here you see it in action.

Make sure the HQ is turned on and click extended size on the menu. For more options, click through to DailyMotion.
That sounds absolutely fantastic.


Thanks for posting it.

David
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Very good Doug. Sound makes all the difference. Still a very nice loco.

How do you get a three minute clip? I found with Photobucket I was limited to 1:20 minutes due to the Mblimit.
QUOTE (neil_s_wood @ 10 Oct 2008, 22:10) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>...
How do you get a three minute clip? I found with Photobucket I was limited to 1:20 minutes due to the Mblimit.

DailyMotion limits uploads to 20 minutes or 150MB whatever comes first. Size depends on the quality that you render the video. I render at high-resolution DVD quality so one day I may just stick it on a DVD. This clip comes out at about 67MB at 1280x720 25fps resolution. Of course the hosting service compresses it further to put it into Flash.
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