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hello Paul

I will tell you what ive got so far 9 bords done and track done i now puting Ballast on track
u can come and have a look and say what u think. I have 3 dcc the rest is dc locomotives i got up 22 coaches and 13 wagons. my laout is end to end. if u like u can ring me i will send my Telephone munber by e-mail ok

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No problem Paul you do that and just so we don't get into trouble with the management I think It would be best to email each other through the PM system rather than through the forum as really our conversations should be about the threads that we are on.
OK mate

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Hello All

update Im still working my layout im going to start on my side mounted Turnout Motor now
I let you now that I have 48 steam locomotives and 45 Diesel Locomotives and 14 wagons and 23 coaches.
 

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Hello frame69

I have run them on my layout just to try it I have not name my layout yet i got lot to do on my layout still when i done my layout then i will put on video

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I am several years in to building a loft layout. Fairly modern (1970) three-storey terraced townhouse in London. In summary, I have found:
1) Make sure the joists are up to it. Get advice if you are not sure. Do NOT cut into roof support carpentry!
2) Get someone who knows what they are doing plumb in plenty of lighting and electric power points; you cannot have too many sockets. Think how many you need, then double that ...
3) Then add more lights. You cannot have too much lighting.
4) Get a sturdy ladder. Do not rely on a step-ladder or some ad hoc arrangement with something balanced on the aperture edge. At the very least invest £30 or so in a proper sliding affair. They are easy to install.
5) Flooring: I used thick, floor-grade tongue-and-groove 8'x4' sheets of chipboard. Do NOT rely on the packs of 'loft floor' stuff they sell in DIY warehouses. It is basically shredded wheat ... if you can afford it use marine ply.
6) Make sure you have not drilled or screwed into any wiring by mistake. Or water pipes ...
7) Think seriously about insulation. The main problem is heat in summer. Before you start building your layout install thick insulation board between the eaves. This REALLY makes a difference. I reckon I have cut midsummer temperatures by 10C as a result. (And you house fuel bills will go down).
8) Dust & crap: hoover, hoover then hoover again. You would be amazed how much dust the average attic accumulates.
9) Now put some more lights in.
10) Needless to say, I did not do any of this, or rather I did, but all in the wrong order. It's OK now, but I'd have saved myself a lot of bother if I had thought a little before leaping.

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QUOTE Think seriously about insulation. The main problem is heat in summer. Before you start building your layout install thick insulation board between the eaves.

If you are going to put insulation between the eaves and the back of the roofing felt, you need to take advice about where to leave ventilation to prevent moisture build up. As I understand it, you can't just stuff the gap with insulation and secure it with a fireproof material like plasterboard.

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As a designer of loft conversions from a structural engineering point of view, i certainly agree with the previous comment from Mike H that you should never remove any timber from the roof or ceiling structure without professional engineering advice. As for insulation, you should always leave 50mm or 2 inches of ventilation from the underside of the felt and also add slate/tile vents near the apex if you don't want the build up of moisture. This means that in most cases you cannot place more than 25-45mm of insulation between the rafters. As for fixing plasterboard to the underside of the rafters, you should consider that most roof structures in houses over 50 years old are not capable of passing modern Building Regulation loading, so adding extra load will increase the existing deflections. It will however be unlikely that the addition of plasterboard will over stress the structure, causing failure of the timbers. Without wanting to sound to pessimistic the most important thing you should install in your loft is a linked fire alarm. In a two storey house it is unlikely that you will hear a smoke alarm ringing at ground floor level when you are running locos in the loft. By the time smoke reaches you your exit may well be cut off. On a more positive note, roof voids designed under Building Regulation approval in the last 40 years have ceilings capable of carrying the most ambitious layouts. So happy constructing to all!!!

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OK, a question - I believe there is a bit of space between my insulation and the felt, but probably not anything like 50mm. (There is no plasterboard).
Where can I expect to see this moisture build-up if it occurs? My loft is as dry as a bone ...
 

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Hello All

I will put more pics of my layout soon on my web site. Are there any one that got a working layout in a loft which i can come to see working. Live in Birmingham West Heath

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I have had a loft layout for about 4 years. The key for me is good ventilation. My loft is draughty in winter and hot in summer. No insulation under roof, but it is always dry and some of the buildings go back more than 20 years and are still in good condition. Remember to leave gaps at rail joins. Expansion in the summer is a nightmare if you don't
 
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