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Doug
For UK Rail fans and those not in the UK, this may be of interest:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7784179.stm

How many trains going the other way can you count?
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John Webb
Shame about the couple of fog patches they ran into!

Regards,
John

PS I didn't attempt to count the other trains.
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neil_s_wood
Gosh that was pretty fast.
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dwb
I didn't recognise anywhere
, but then I'm not that familiar with the route.

Can anyone identify any of the stations where it stopped?

David
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80class
Enjoyed that, felt like one of those amusement rides only without the tilting sets!

QUOTE (dwb @ 15 Dec 2008, 21:20) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can anyone identify any of the stations where it stopped?

Glasgow Central


Rob
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80class
Oh and I assume Euston as the starting point too...

Rob
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dwb
QUOTE felt like one of those amusement rides only
Did you get an impression of going backwards in some of the foggy bits?

David
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80class
Yes I did actually, was quite eery. Although the shots of the point work soon got my mind racing forwards again!

Rob
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P
This was great! Noticed the Oxenholme stop just before the Lune Gorge & Shap, then stopped at Carlisle. Slowed for Carstairs, then Glasgow Central. Looking too closely made it feel as though I was travelling backwards for a moment or two. Anyone else get this weird motion feeling?
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Rugby and Crewe stops I think in addition to those mentioned above.
QUOTE (dwb @ 15 Dec 2008, 23:14) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Did you get an impression of going backwards in some of the foggy bits?
Your visual system gets conflicting evidence due to the fixed timebase video sampling of the image and the varying speed of the train. The most regular part of the view is the OHL posts, and the sampling rate / train speed combination determines whether these are perceived as advancing or retreating. (Same effect as spoked wheels 'coming to rest' then changing direction on film as their velocity increases.) When most of the other visual cues are lost due to fog your brain is pretty much wholy dependent on the OHL posts, and bases its' motion estimate on the artefact of the sampling timebase and velocity product.
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Richard Johnson
***What struck me more than anything is the visual intrusiveness of the Overhead masts and catenary in the film.... and the lack of straight track. It stands out when you compare mainline railways here in AU, as there are incredibly long sections of tediously straight alignment in places. Oh for the same video in steam days.

Richard
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The 'wandering all around the houses route' is interesting as a permanent reminder of the original concept, of picking up traffic from every place feasible en-route between the end destinations. The advance in speed in 1830 from horse and carriage or canal boat, to the truly startling 30 to 40mph of even the relatively early railway, must have made the relatively small deviations from the most direct route permitted by the geography seemingly inconsequential. A steam version of the trip would be a wonder, but we have to make do with the little we have. Recent BBC programming has shown a delightful clip of a Claughton overfilling the tender tank and giving the leading coach an impromptu wash, quite early in the LMS regime.
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QUOTE (dwb @ 15 Dec 2008, 21:20) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can anyone identify any of the stations where it stopped?

David

The version I watched had the stations listed - pretty fast though !

Thanks for the link.
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adecoaches26point4
I live next to Rugby Station,
there seems to be a strange swish sound eminating from the railway,
which only lasts for 30 seconds at a time


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QUOTE (Brian Considine @ 16 Dec 2008, 18:06) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The version I watched had the stations listed - pretty fast though !

Thanks for the link.
They have now added station names along the way where the train stops. I assume quite a few people were interested in that.
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dwb
QUOTE (Same effect as spoked wheels 'coming to rest' then changing direction on film as their velocity increases.)

I saw a rather bizarre version of this on Sunday at Wembley. There was an action replay on the big screen in which the white tyre maker's name went round in one direction and the spokes of the wheel went the other.... ?

David
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Great illusion isn't it? There's probably only one name on the tyre, but four, five, or more apparently identical spokes so they are effectively running at different frequencies. If each spoke was a different colour, then you would perceive them staying in phase with the the tyre makers name.
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Trog
I wonder what they have got against Hemel Hempstead to Lichfield?
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QUOTE (Trog @ 16 Dec 2008, 23:32) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I wonder what they have got against Hemel Hempstead to Lichfield?

Rugby has lost its direct North bound express services,
if you need points, Crewe northward, its via Birmingham New St now!


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QUOTE (dwb @ 15 Dec 2008, 23:14) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Did you get an impression of going backwards in some of the foggy bits?

Yes very much so, at times I had to really think about the direction of travel. Excellent piece of PR work as well.

Regards
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