[KODIAK BEAR]

i know this has nothing to do with model trains but i have bought the latest pc with so much memory etc etc and it comes with windows vista and i have tried loading mcafee anti virus on (which states vista compatible), it loaded up ok but the pc kept crashing on me.

windows vista has some how blocked it ? (vista wont even allow certain games to load up either)
i dont want to keep wasting money on anti virus things that will not load or work on vista.

Now, does anyone here have a super duper pc with windows vista and have norton, mcafee or any anti virus software installed and if so, which one please ? pc world said they wont sell mcafee to vista users becaue of this problem.

the last thing i want to do is get viruses etc etc and i DO NOT TRUST bloody windows so called security !!!!!!

any help please as i would be so grateful.

thank you gang

P.S mcafee is probably the best one to stop hackers,trojans,viruses etc etc !

 

[ME 26-06]

I have a super duper PC right in front of me, manufactured by Apple. No Vista, No Norton, McAfee etc., it just works as advertised.

Still, afaik, Norton offers a downloadable upgrade thingy so that MS Vista users can utilize their software as well. In addition, Kaspersky Labs is said to offer a very powerful, Vista compatible anti-virus software that you may want to try out. Anti-Virus software digs deep into the inner workings of Windows Vista, and I´ve read that the manufacturer has intentionally made it hard to install this kind of software to make it harder for viruses to attack.

In addition, don´t forget to

- activate your firewall
- get some anti-adware stuff like the program called ad-aware
- get something to scan for spyware in case your anti-virus software isn´t capable of doing so

before you start to make sure you avoid any bad surprises...

 

[Peter_Harvey]

Its quite simple dont use ither for windows vista use AVG and it dose not miss a thing it updates automatically without requiring payment to update.

http://www.grisoft.com/

Its far better and its a lot cheaper for 2 years subs.

Pete

 

[neil_s_wood]

I've been using Norton and have never had a problem with it. Never heard of Mac Fee though.

 

[goedel]

The fundamental problem here is that Vista is a stonking great big piece of

. Five times bigger than XP on your hard disk and just so one can have transparent windows...the world has gone stark raving mad...or rather the retailers need some new resource guzzling piece of software to sell people so that have to upgrade their computers. Sales to get more sales...

Vista is so horrible it makes XP "Professional" a delight to use, after a few command code modifications have been made...and these are freely available on the internet. At least the future is bright...the future's Linux! I've suffered from 3.11 to XP and I'm not going any further with Microsoft...XP will be the last of their products I buy, and with free open-source equivalents of "Office" etc. now available and highly capable I look forward to sweeping away the last vestiges of filth from my hard disk...

Goedel

 

[Brian Considine]

Would it not be possible to consider going "back" to XP ? - unless for some reason you must have vista for an application ?

 

[KODIAK BEAR]

QUOTE (dbclass50 @ 21 Jun 2007, 10:08) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Would it not be possible to consider going "back" to XP ? - unless for some reason you must have vista for an application ?

i cant brian, its set up on the pc so i cant revert back to xp.

mind you, xp is a load of pants too !

and yes, i agree with you goedel. i think bill gates must be skint again. perhaps he cant afford smoked salmon for breakfast so he launched vista.

thank you all for the coments.

andy

 

[7113]

QUOTE (KODIAK BEAR @ 20 Jun 2007, 21:06) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>P.S mcafee is probably the best one to stop hackers,trojans,viruses etc etc !

Which is why HMG use it along with the GSI system to prevent spammers gaining access.

Regards

John

 

[sibrows]

Apple all the way. I spend my life sorting out issues with PC's, MACs are sooooo much simpler as the do what they say on the tin without trying to second guess what your trying to achieve!!!

And relax...

 

[goedel]

I have also found McAfee to be good in the past but things are always changing and so long term brand loyalty can sometimes be a "hassle-free" rip-off e.g. long term bank customers suffer below-inflation interest rates while competitve new accounts are only marketed at potential customers! One must be forever vigilant...the entire concept of a corporate brand is counterproductive in the long run to the best interests of an individual.

QUOTE (Sibrows @ 21 Jun 2007, 22:58) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>And relax...

I'd love to know if someone has done a scientific study to compare the average blood pressure of users of Windows,Apple,Linux,Unix etc... performing some standardised set of tasks such as installing a modem, changing the screen resolution and setting up a hard disk partition etc. I'm sure the results would be amusing, although perhaps people with naturally higher blood pressure just choose 'Windows' because it sounds nice.

As Michael Winner said, "Calm down! It's just a screensaver..."

Goedel

 

[Brian Considine]

QUOTE (Sibrows @ 21 Jun 2007, 22:58) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Apple all the way. I spend my life sorting out issues with PC's, MACs are sooooo much simpler as the do what they say on the tin without trying to second guess what your trying to achieve!!!

And relax...

With all due respect everytime (on any type of forum) the subject of hacking/virus's come up someone will praise the MAC or Linux. Yes, MAC/Linux may very well be better than windows but just remember ;

1) One of the reasons that MAC/Linux is less suseptable to attacks is that there are less vunerable users about - if everyone used MAC's/Linux the hackers & lowlifes would target them & then we would all still have the same problem.
2) Not all software is available in non-windows format - virtually none of our specialist stuff is.
3) There are not that many MAC/Linux experts about.

 

[boilermaker69]

Both McAfee and Norton are resource intensive. I would recommend either AVG which is now owned by Micro$oft or Avast both of which provide free versions. If you have any pc related problems then the forum at Majorgeeks offer excellent free advice especially spyware/virus problems as well as software and hardware. Hope this is of assistance.

Peter.