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Hi! Tunnel portals are important scenery details, which most often is bought as a standard item ready made. Then just as often the portal will be somewhat misplaced, unless you´re modelling exactly the region from where the prototype portal has been taken. This video presents methods and materials needed to make any type of stone arch tunnel portal to fit the scenery you model.

Link to the video tutorial (Youtube):

http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/gVnoHbfxOWk?rel=0
 

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Tunnel mouths on models are often boring. (No pun - it's the tunnel that's bored not the end structure).

Anyway, as noted many tunnel mouths are bought "off the shelf" and "plonked" into place. This is fine - for those that this is fine for. For the more fussy the video and others are useful.

When/where it is possible it is even more useful to try to get a look at a variety of tunnel mouths in the general area that the model is to represent. This should include a good look at the immediate area of the tunnel mouth as well - because there is a need to understand how the tunnel fits into the overall scene.
Failing the opportunity to take a look at the real thing there are plenty of pictures in magazines and now on the internet. However, a modeller should be careful to look more at pictures of real tunnels and only use model examples for inspiration.

What can make even the most basic off-the-shelf tunnel mouth more interesting is to add features next to it or in front of it. It is quite surprising how many times there is some bridging structure just before a tunnel - this can be any road or pathway bridge - but - taking less space - it can be a pipeline for gas, water, some industrial material (where there is industrial manufacture each side) and - the wonderful option - sewage. Pipes come in all sorts of sizes with all sorts of structures and supports. They also come in an assortment of colours - and states of repair.

Of course, in the vicinity of any station - there is likely to be the most important thing - the signals...


 

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Personally, I find that plaster is a better medium than polystyrene becaue it readily accepts water colours and gives an instant realistic stone finish:

http://www.mrol.com.au/Pages/Vu/Modellinga...tyleTunnelMouth

http://www.mrol.com.au/Pages/Vu/ModellingaViaduct

Hopefully, Bear will be happy because if one looks at my tunnel mouth, it will be noted that there are drainage covers just in front of the tunnel mouth which act a a T junction for the 'drainage channel' down the centre of the tunnel. The centre cover is effectively a T junction 'pipes' pass out under the track on both sides of the track bed and lead into drainage channels which can be seen in the second picture of the tunnel mouth article above. Drainage systems were actually modelled on my layout!
 

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Nice looking work.


I hope you haven't drained your resources...




Actually - thinking about it - I don't recall anywhere where I have seen surface evidence of a drain or drains in a tunnel. Given how wet they often are there should/must be something...

Then again - tunnel entrances on track are horrible places to be. Consequently, while I have taken some pictures - I've not taken many... Tunnels are also usually filthy dirty places.
Dirt in tunnels - I don't think has ever come up as a modelling subject... Only really chunky stonework really retains any recognisable image. Masonry gets smothered. Everything blends into a thick guck/grime.
Apart from coal smoke/soot and diesel excreta tunnels get crudded up with layers of brake dust. This is FILTHY stuff - varies in colour depending on the era (what the brake shoes are made of) - but tunnels seems to be simply dull grey and horrible. The muck gets everywhere - including into refuges (aka "manholes"). This could mean that anyone working in a tunnel would get mired with the crud - particularly around their shoulders, buttocks and elbows. YEUK! FILTHY!!! This is one reason even the earliest Hi-viz gear usually had dark crud on it.

In winter ice is a problem in tunnels. It's hardly ever mentioned. However, it used to be a regular Pway job to go in with stout poles to smash ice off tunnel roofs. H&S would freak out about the risk now. "Back then", with very poor lighting (poor torches or oil lamps) it was hard to see what ice there was and how big it was - consequently whacking one bit the men never knew just how much would come down - or where. They needed to be able to leap out of the way fast. In my own time I've also know ice form a slab across the tunnel floor. In Box Hill Tunnel an 8 SUB (2x4) smashed off all of its traction shoes against a massive slab of ice right across the tunnel floor. The good thing was they were the old really heavy units - I doubt that a modern unit (possibly even an EPB) would have stayed on the track. The SUBs simply smashed their way through and then trundled to a stop.

 

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QUOTE (Bear 1923 @ 14 Nov 2019, 08:23) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Actually - thinking about it - I don't recall anywhere where I have seen surface evidence of a drain or drains in a tunnel. Given how wet they often are there should/must be something...

From what I have seen, it really varies, depending on the ground through which a tunnel passes. All tunnels I have seen have had some form of drainage, usually a channel on one or both sides or in the case of double track tunnels, a channel down the middle, usually covered. Wherever the channel is located, there will be periodic drain covers - I recall seeing these through Sharpthorn tunnel prior to the Bluebell reopening.
Prior to major works to reinstate the failed drainage system, the southern end of Sharpthorn tunnel was an absolute swamp with the water running out of the tunnel like a river.

Drainage (or lack of) can result in the structural failure of a tunnel, particularly if water gets behind the lining and support - there have been a fair few examples of collapses because of this. There's a website (Forgotten Relics or tunnels?) which has numerous photos of tunnels. Collapse seems to have been a common problem in some parts of the country where collapsed tunnels were basically burried and sealed as too dangerous to repair.

My experience of railway tunnels is that they are the darkest, coldest, spookiest places you can be. The sort of place where your torch 'fights' against darkness! I found looking up smoke stacks to be the most spooky thing to do!
I wouldn't necessarily say they are filthy, dirty places - I have walked through a fair few. That really depends on where they are, what went through them or what goes through them now and/or whether the trains were under high throttle.

QUOTE (Bear 1923 @ 14 Nov 2019, 08:23) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>In winter ice is a problem in tunnels. It's hardly ever mentioned. However, it used to be a regular Pway job to go in with stout poles to smash ice off tunnel roofs. H&S would freak out about the risk now. "Back then", with very poor lighting (poor torches or oil lamps) it was hard to see what ice there was and how big it was - consequently whacking one bit the men never knew just how much would come down - or where. They needed to be able to leap out of the way fast. In my own time I've also know ice form a slab across the tunnel floor. In Box Hill Tunnel an 8 SUB (2x4) smashed off all of its traction shoes against a massive slab of ice right across the tunnel floor. The good thing was they were the old really heavy units - I doubt that a modern unit (possibly even an EPB) would have stayed on the track. The SUBs simply smashed their way through and then trundled to a stop.

I recall that ice used to be be a major problem in Haywards Heath tunnel. Water would ingress via the two smoke stacks and would create huge ice formations which would result in tunnel closure while the ice was cleared. I believe they also had the sheet problem you described too. The smoke stacks were re-sealed to prevent water ingress and I believe that there is little/no problem today.
 

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OOPS! I didn't mean to say that tunnels aren;t drained, only that I don't recall seeing - clear) evidence of the drains - not even small drain covers similar to the gulley grids we get at roadside curbs. This doesn't mean that the drainage isn't there. You are right in saying that how much is provided and how effective it is depends on the location - and particulaly the geology... and the local water table. The biggest problem with tunnels - and cuttings - is where they "accidentally" mess with the water table. This is because the water table isn't (as it sounds) a nice flat thing and clear straight line through a hill - but - it has an up and down profile usually somewhere a bit below the surface. This is why springs break out part way up a hill side - they occur where the water table meets the surface - or the surface breaks the water table... So any cutting or quarryingthrough a hill can break into the water. Conversely, especially in periods of drought, the top of the water can sink way below usual levels leaving springs and even deep wells dry.
Of course - an extreme element is that some aquifers come underground from hundreds of miles away - just to confuse the issue...

The about 2 foot by 3 foot (or a bit bigger) pits in a draianage line are "Catch pits". They get progressively deeper towrad an outlet (or pumping) location. There are recomended standards for the amount of fall in a drain line in/along the track.

Good point about the dirtiness of tunnels depending on how hard locos are pulling. I guess this would probably also apply to bridges? On the other hand, heavy braking will produce more brake dust crud - and that is FILTHY. (You might notice that I don't like it - my uniform used to get disgusting from the stuff. Also the grease + brake dust that messed up screw link couplings and brake pipes on SUB stock and everything else with low level connections made coupling a mucky job - your sleeves became messed - and you could get guck on your shoulders from the buffers. The worst with SUBs was the grafite grease on the hand brake columns in the drivers' cabs. You never fully got that out of a jacket. We were actually issue different (dark blue denim-like jackets for shunting duties in addition to our ordinary "platform duty" jackets. So it must have been recognised that there was an issue. Rather than looking after us or even our appearance it was probably to stop us getting crud and grafite grease on the passengers. (We had passengers back then - not customers).

Back then everywhere around any busy station had a film of yellow/brown brake dust - probably including our lungs. Of course, not long before my time, there would have been a layer of soot over everything - regardless of peoples' efforts to clean up. For "prototype perfection" this would amend the official colours of all paintwork - except much polished locos.

 

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I just wrote a large post containing some memories of involvement with railway tunnels throughout my career and .............. it somehow disappeared just as I was completing it. What a waste of an hour that was.

A tad disgruntled ....... Greyvoices (alias john)
 

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*** Added commiserations...

As I often reply from the office, I do longer responses in MS word. It gives me the opportunity to cope with interruptions, then to do a last minute content check before copying and pasting into the Forum. I can also preserve it if I wish to use as part of future responses on the same subject.

regards, Richard
 

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Sound advice from Bear and Richard ............ thanks.

When the will to live comes back to me I will return to this topic ........ that's if MRFers don't mind being "bored" with my tunnel tales.

In the meantime here are some photos I took whilst at work in 2006:


Tunnel mouth on the south incline, the Sudrampe climbing up to the Lotchsberg tunnel. December 2006. The gradient here is 1:37 and we are trailing 1,400 tonnes with 2 x TRAXX locomotives


A bit farther north climbing up to the Lotschsberg, yet another view from the same freight.


And this is the Crossrail train ready to depart from Domodossola on a Sunday morning, December 2006 before the previous two photos were taken.


My experiences with tunnels were not always as comfortable as that day. I started on the railways swinging a hammer, a long way before I took charge of freights running through the Alps (well someone had to do it).

Best regards ................ Greyvoices (alias John)
 

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Hi John love the pics. I did not reaslise the sort of tonnage that was hauled untill i was at Fluelen ( i think that is how you spell it ). Time flies when you are having fun 2006 seems a long time ago.
How did your trip to the Exhibition go was it worth it.
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