Getting back to the original topic, the appeal of modelling a preserved line would seem to be 1) Big locos on small trains (eg MN pacific with 4 coaches) 2) Mixture of locomotive stock, steam, diesel, dmu, varied regions etc 3) Possibility of also using bang up to date stock -e.g Voyager at Norden, HSTs at Minehead.
4) Ease of access to prototype information. 5) Plenty of MaRK 1 coaches
My local line has the following locos all available rtr IN OO... MN Pacific, Rebuilt and Unrebuilt WC/BB pacifics, Standard 5MT 4-6-0, Ivatt 2MT 2-6-2T 9F, A4, "Thomas", 08 and 33 on the diesel front, Class 121 DMU
Yet it all seems strangely un-appealing as a model... too easy maybe?
Maybe the 'just playing trains' jibe still sticks??
QUOTE (pedromorgan @ 21 May 2007, 06:08) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sorry i have been away for a few days and i have not had time to reply to posts so i am playing catchup.
I think i explained it pretty well in my origional post "I really wouldnt feel any inclination or enthusiasm to recreate them in miniture.". i wouldnt want to make a model of something i dont particularly like.
No Gary. unfortunatly i dont think that. i would love it if that were the case and the preserved lines in the UK would be far better as a result but there are many lines around the country that seem to exist purely to make money and hide behind the word "preservation" in order to get extra funding for their projects. they are really a light railway trying to attract tourists rather than a preservation line.
In a word YES. if they cant do something one way then they should find a way of doing it another way. recently we have been banned from using leaded solder. but do we sit around and winge about it? (ok some do) no we get on and found an altrnative and it works perfectly well. there is no reason at all why the loco sheds cannot have public galleries or viewing areas. i think in one particular case it boils down to lazyness. its something i find very dissapointing and frustrating.
I went to one major line last year which has an incredible collection of rolling stock and all i could see was a USA tank a tamping machine and 2 bary hulks. even though i was within 100 metres of 4 pacifics!!!
I think it is all too easy for railways to point to H&S as an excuse for not making acess a priority.
There was actually no need to put up signs. evry public building is now non smoking. if anyone lights up simply ask them to "put that light out!!!" or stand outside. this is not a health and safty issue, it is a legal one and the smokers know perfectly well what they can and cant do. what they dont know is weather they have the guts to inforce it and stickers wont change that in the slightest. (this is also an issue in my own club and i await with interest to see what will happen!)
Yes BUT token working is not helath and safty -its common sence! its a very elegent soloution to the single track problem. i think on the preserved lines the running is actually very good but it is such a huge let down in other areas.
I should say that i think there are a couple of exceptions to the rule. i think Didcot and the NRM and Shildon are wonderfull museums. and didcot would make a good model.
Peter
4) Ease of access to prototype information. 5) Plenty of MaRK 1 coaches
My local line has the following locos all available rtr IN OO... MN Pacific, Rebuilt and Unrebuilt WC/BB pacifics, Standard 5MT 4-6-0, Ivatt 2MT 2-6-2T 9F, A4, "Thomas", 08 and 33 on the diesel front, Class 121 DMU
Yet it all seems strangely un-appealing as a model... too easy maybe?
Maybe the 'just playing trains' jibe still sticks??
QUOTE (pedromorgan @ 21 May 2007, 06:08) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sorry i have been away for a few days and i have not had time to reply to posts so i am playing catchup.
I think i explained it pretty well in my origional post "I really wouldnt feel any inclination or enthusiasm to recreate them in miniture.". i wouldnt want to make a model of something i dont particularly like.
No Gary. unfortunatly i dont think that. i would love it if that were the case and the preserved lines in the UK would be far better as a result but there are many lines around the country that seem to exist purely to make money and hide behind the word "preservation" in order to get extra funding for their projects. they are really a light railway trying to attract tourists rather than a preservation line.
In a word YES. if they cant do something one way then they should find a way of doing it another way. recently we have been banned from using leaded solder. but do we sit around and winge about it? (ok some do) no we get on and found an altrnative and it works perfectly well. there is no reason at all why the loco sheds cannot have public galleries or viewing areas. i think in one particular case it boils down to lazyness. its something i find very dissapointing and frustrating.
I went to one major line last year which has an incredible collection of rolling stock and all i could see was a USA tank a tamping machine and 2 bary hulks. even though i was within 100 metres of 4 pacifics!!!
I think it is all too easy for railways to point to H&S as an excuse for not making acess a priority.
There was actually no need to put up signs. evry public building is now non smoking. if anyone lights up simply ask them to "put that light out!!!" or stand outside. this is not a health and safty issue, it is a legal one and the smokers know perfectly well what they can and cant do. what they dont know is weather they have the guts to inforce it and stickers wont change that in the slightest. (this is also an issue in my own club and i await with interest to see what will happen!)
Yes BUT token working is not helath and safty -its common sence! its a very elegent soloution to the single track problem. i think on the preserved lines the running is actually very good but it is such a huge let down in other areas.
I should say that i think there are a couple of exceptions to the rule. i think Didcot and the NRM and Shildon are wonderfull museums. and didcot would make a good model.
Peter