QUOTE (Giantorange @ 16 Oct 2008, 22:15) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Great pictures, thanks.
Anyone know the time period of the livery on the two diesels?
Matt
oops, two of the diesels, not the 20
Three diesels.
What is probably an 04 with the wasp stripes and the class 25 in two tone green with small yellow panel, both from 1961 onwards, until a BR blue repaint from 1968 onwards but often long delayed or may never have happened for these 'heading for the scrapper' types.
The class 37 in all over green is I believe a fiction in terms of BR operation. They came into service late 1961, after yellow end panels had become a requirement, so were introduced to traffic with SYP. Unlike big brother, the Deltic of which the first few examples came out in a very well designed two tone green in April 1961, with the yellow panel added quickly when in service.
What is probably an 04 with the wasp stripes and the class 25 in two tone green with small yellow panel, both from 1961 onwards, until a BR blue repaint from 1968 onwards but often long delayed or may never have happened for these 'heading for the scrapper' types.
The class 37 in all over green is I believe a fiction in terms of BR operation. They came into service late 1961, after yellow end panels had become a requirement, so were introduced to traffic with SYP. Unlike big brother, the Deltic of which the first few examples came out in a very well designed two tone green in April 1961, with the yellow panel added quickly when in service.
Thanks, it was the '37 I was really interested in. I've got one that I want to re-detail and paint in the earliest possible livery.
i really do struggle to see this mystical appeal of the 37. each to their own i suppose. anyway thanks for the pictures.
good to see those supersaloons under cover. i am really rather fond of them.
and Tiny! i believe ifs the only surviving complete broad gauge loco! the iron duke has some origional parts i believe.
I am a bit dubious of the "titanic ocean liner special ticket"
The titanic left from Southampton and not from plymouth. i have no doubt that the LSWR ran specials to southampton terminus or even the ternminal itself. but i cant imagine why the GWR would be running one.
also it says "issued onboard white star liner titannic". if that was the case then surely if it was to be a GWR ticket then it would be the other way round. to plymouth from london. presumably at the time it was quicker to use the fast one to waterloo and cross london to get an express to plymouth?
Looks like you had a good day out cap'n. Nice pix and thanks for sharing them with us.
QUOTE (34C @ 17 Oct 2008, 07:32) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The class 37 in all over green is I believe a fiction in terms of BR operation. They came into service late 1961, after yellow end panels had become a requirement, so were introduced to traffic with SYP.
Not necessarilly, like the Hymeks the first 37's were delivered after the introduction of the SYP, however, being built by outside contractors they didn't receive them immediately. That having been said the example shown would almost certainly have been supplied with the yellow panels.
QUOTE (pedromorgan @ 17 Oct 2008, 10:40) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i really do struggle to see this mystical appeal of the 37. each to their own i suppose.
QUOTE I am a bit dubious of the "titanic ocean liner special ticket"
The titanic left from Southampton and not from plymouth. i have no doubt that the LSWR ran specials to southampton terminus or even the ternminal itself. but i cant imagine why the GWR would be running one.
also it says "issued onboard white star liner titannic". if that was the case then surely if it was to be a GWR ticket then it would be the other way round. to plymouth from london. presumably at the time it was quicker to use the fast one to waterloo and cross london to get an express to plymouth?
Sounds like a bit of "Marketing" to me. The Titanic did visit Cherbourg and Cobh on the ill fated journey but there is no mention of Plymouth. (Check FAQ 14 on the RMS Titanic Inc website)
QUOTE (rossi @ 17 Oct 2008, 18:43) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>nice pics .Looks like some of the locos could do with a bit of weathering though .I wonder if they have a good airbrush
Apart from the Hall - which looks great in a 'workaday' slight covering of grime and soot !
Lovely photos, thanks for sharing. Looks like the weather was kind to you.
Steve
Ps I don't know what the appeal is of class 37 either, but I love em too!
[quote name='pedromorgan' date='17 Oct 2008, 10:40' post='64453']
i really do struggle to see this mystical appeal of the 37.
I am sorry Peter but I just don't agree with you at all.
There really is nothing like a class 37 going along at full chat with your head out of the carriage window listening to the throaty sound of the engines!!
Like you said though each to there own!!
Nice pictures mate especially the Class 37 ( Best Diesel ever)
QUOTE (madon37s @ 31 Jan 2009, 22:21) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I am sorry Peter but I just don't agree with you at all.
There really is nothing like a class 37 going along at full chat with your head out of the carriage window listening to the throaty sound of the engines!!
Like you said though each to there own!!
Nice pictures mate especially the Class 37 ( Best Diesel ever)
Only thing wrong with a 37 is, that it is not a 40 !!!!.
Good 'ole English Electric !
so.....did the OP manage to escape WITHOUT spending a month's wages in their excellent model shop?????
the one issue I have with modelling a heritage railway is.....getting the stock to LOOK right?
In their days of revenue operation on BR, the issue of weathering effects is dealt with easily, and techniques are well documented.
But on a railway such as South Devon, the appearance of the stock really is somewhat artificial......ex-works appearances really don't have the same aura as the [well looked after, admittedly] appearance of preserved stock.
How's about...''battered but smart''...rather than clean, ex-works?
A bit like many classic old cars that have been 'restored?'
nothing like what a brand new car would have looked like at the time?
which suggests a whole new technique is needed forcolour and appearances?
I would suggest that the class 37 is so popular because it has proved to be the most successful of the first generation diesels.
I wonder what would have happened if the 'Hymek" class 35 had not been scrapped because of their hydraulic transmission. About the same power but a lot lighter, you never know, the 100 examples could have given the 37's a run for their money.
It can't be just the looks of a 37 - the 40 was similar and so was the 23 Baby Deltic. Having said that the baby deltic was probably the worst loco that EE made around that era, although I understand they were comparible after refurbishment, albeit still overweight like almost all of the type 2's.
It may have been a lemon but I would still like to see a good 23 model (after fixing with the centre headcode). Any chance of a reproduction along the lines of the Tornado - I suppose not !
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