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Info from Bachmann:

Class 25 Locos

The new class 25 and 24 models feature directional lighting where applicable. This extra lighting feature really looks good and enhances these versatile models that can be used on many different types of model railways. Pictured above is item number 32-405 which is loco number D7646 decorated in British Railways Two tone green livery haling from the 1960's.



Available for the first time with built in digital sound, item number 32-400DS represents a major step forward in the product development of these attractive Bo-Bo diesel models. Loco 25 095 portrays a locomotive turned out in a slightly modified version of British Railways corporate Blue.

Class 37 locomotives



Recently received samples include the latest class 37 locomotives. Pictured here above is item number 32-376DS, locomotive number 37693 sporting the early version of Railfreight livery. This item features Digital sound and is ideally used with the Dynamis Digital Command and control system.



Such is the popularity of our digital sound locomotives, we are producing an un-refurbished version of the class 37 with Digital sound fitted. Item number 32-776DS represents loco number 37254 in British Railways blue livery. Representing how many of the class would have looked in the 1970's and 1980's.

Class 24 Bo-Bos



Another 1st generation Diesel electric class were the class 24 Bo-Bo locomotives. The Branchline model has also been upgraded to include directional lighting. Two versions of the improved model are soon to be released. Item number 32-430 represents loco number D5013 in an all over Green British Railways livery from the 1960's.



Like the class 25, the revised class 24 has been made available with digitally controlled sound included. Item number 32-425DS is DCC sound fitted locomotive that will operate on the NMRA approved EZ-Command control systems. Loco number 24 035 is modelled in British Railways Corporate Blue livery and is typical of class 24 locomotives running in the 1970's.

I like the Class 25s. I just wish the green ones would come with should. Looks like I'll have to get 2 Class 25s and switch the bodies around. Anybody want a blue one without sound?
 

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D 5013 Green, pity its not with sound, would definatly get one, thou they all look like great models, and im not into diesel
 

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Agreed it is a pity they are not doing a Class 24 with sound, I like the plain green D5013 too.

As long as both versions have 21 Pin decoder sockets Doug, it should just be a case of nicking the decoder and speaker from a class 25, and putting the socket blanking plate from the 24 in their place.

Also a coule of weeks ago I tried a Howes sound unit (Based on the ESU Loksound Micro) in one of my Class 37s. Need to get a 21 pin to 8 pin adaptor too, but the end result is brilliant, I think the Howes Class 37 sound samples are far superior to the Bachmann(South West Digital) one, which spends too lond idling after the initial acceleleration.

Also by using an 8 pin Loksound, I was ablw to wie up both cab lights to separate Auc functions. So F11 turn on/off the front cab light, and F12 the rear cab light. Much more realistic, and the project was a lot of fun too.

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Oh dear, I suspect more expense.......

D5013 in full green: one of 15 loaned to Ashford Kent in 1959 while the Southern Region waited for their 33's to arrive. I have a photo of it taking water at Ramsgate.

See - local interest.

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The Blue loco has no frost shield fitted [should be there on this late a livery].It is shown on the 2008 catalogue picture !So I am hoping thats the one that they release.I would like a 24/1 in final Highland Blue with headlights & sound.Maybe this could be there next 24/25 project?
 

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Recently acquired a Bachmann Class 24.

The cab handrails are a pain! I had to fix them in with a touch of adhesive and then today one caught on something on the layout and was catapulted into oblivion.

I suspect that spares of this ilk will be impossible to obtain.

Why couldn't they have fitted metal ones like the 25s?
 

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Class 37 in blue, 37254 an ex Cardiff Canton locomotive! Would have seen this one on the Maerdy colliery coal trains. Although I'm modeling 1930s G.W.R. steam, i may very well buy this to display on the shelf.
 

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QUOTE (Saint Johnstoun @ 30 Jan 2010, 22:49) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Recently acquired a Bachmann Class 24.

The cab handrails are a pain! I had to fix them in with a touch of adhesive and then today one caught on something on the layout and was catapulted into oblivion.

I suspect that spares of this ilk will be impossible to obtain.

Why couldn't they have fitted metal ones like the 25s?

Holy thread revival Batman!!

Err... 24s' handrails are completely different to 25s' - they're almost a thin vertical flat plate on two stanchions, whereas the 25s' where cylindrical.

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I've got three of the earlier 25's; all models of 25/2's with the revised body style and representing the five prototypes that had steam heating boilers fitted, so with water as well as fuel tanks underslung.

I like the idea of sound but would want to retain the models that I have. So for me the question is could the older bodies be fitted to the new sound chassis ?

Has anybody got both who can comment please ?

Bob

p.s. The plastic hand rails supplied by Bachmann were a pain and never looked right. I replaced them with thin wire stuck directly to the body with pva. Looks good and they have not come off (yet).
 

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I was running a couple of 25's with sound 6 or 7 years ago, I dont think it would be a problem today, particularly with the availablity of small sound decoders.
Pity they were limited to track cleaning duites (all Diesels are good for !)
 

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QUOTE (BobB @ 31 Jan 2010, 06:03) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've got three of the earlier 25's; all models of 25/2's with the revised body style and representing the five prototypes that had steam heating boilers fitted, so with water as well as fuel tanks underslung.

I like the idea of sound but would want to retain the models that I have. So for me the question is could the older bodies be fitted to the new sound chassis ?

Has anybody got both who can comment please ?

Bob

I had an original Bachmann 'Tamworth Castle' 25, I bought an 8pin decoder and plugged it straight in. The supplied speaker baffle doesn't fit in a 25, so I just formed one from blu tack. Et viola!


-Rob
 

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Hi Rob

You make it sound so easy. (Pun ?)

What kit did you use, does it sound OK and where did you stick the speaker ?

Please post a few more details,

Thanks

Bob
 

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QUOTE (BobB @ 31 Jan 2010, 06:03) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've got three of the earlier 25's; all models of 25/2's with the revised body style and representing the five prototypes that had steam heating boilers fitted, so with water as well as fuel tanks underslung.

I like the idea of sound but would want to retain the models that I have. So for me the question is could the older bodies be fitted to the new sound chassis ? ...
Bob,

I don't have the sound model, but you are on a pretty safe bet there. Unless Bachmann completely rework a model (such as the Peaks) the body shell fixings stay the same, even if the chassis block has some metal taken out of it to accomodate a speaker fitting. Of models introduced pre-sound that now have sound fitted versions, it was no problem to swap older bodies onto the new sound fitted chassis on the class 20 for example. The old body shell had to have the fan assembly unscrewed is all (the new body shell didn't have a fan fitted) to enable it to fit, doesn't come much simpler than that.

Maybe post this question in the DCC section as well, in case someone who can say for certain but doesn't perhaps look in this section very often, can give a concrete answer?
 

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Thanks 34C, I'll start saving (but the way the exchange rate is going credit may be cheaper in the long run).

As well as sound 25's I wonder about 33's. They may have had a couple of extra cylinders but their Sulzers sounded quite similer, only louder, at least when ticking over and starting the train in the station. Or is my memory deficient ? - never did here a 24, 25, 26 or 27 at the same time as a 33: but then I'm sure it was a BR conspiracy to keep them separate !!!!!
 

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QUOTE (BobB @ 1 Feb 2010, 04:46) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi Rob

You make it sound so easy. (Pun ?)

What kit did you use, does it sound OK and where did you stick the speaker ?

Please post a few more details,

Thanks

Bob

Hello Bob,

I used the Howes sound on a Loksound 3.5 8pin decoder, which is supplied with a captive 23mm speaker.

Take the body off the 25, and at the opposite end to the fan, there is a flat area of PCB on the top of the loco chassis, that's where you're going to place the speaker, facing upwards. Take a piece of blu-tack and roll it into a sausage shaped length equal to the circumference of the speaker, wrap it around the speaker's edge, sealing the rear of the speaker to the PCB/chassis - assuming you've plugged in the decoder, place the loco on the track, key up address 3, press F1 and marvel in your 25 sounds. Refit the body after testing - you're done.

-Rob
 
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