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I seemed to spend all day messing around today with almost nothing to show for it lol...

I did get some landscaping done and I have started to work on the TMD track ...

Back to work tomorrow


 

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Morning.A.
Most day's for me too...........


QUOTE I seemed to spend all day messing around today with almost nothing to show for it

Well, look on the bright side, you do get meals, shoved under the garage door, I have to do my own, when, I remember what time of day it is...


I think we all suffer from this,from time to time..............mine, just go on for weeks............


No stopping @ Model Shops,on your driving breaks today, as most are closed on Mondays.............
 

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I have been working on the road part of Teesside International Container yard ( Thats what im going to call it by the way
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Road Meets Rail Meets Sea Port........

 

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I started to work on my Peco TMD Shed about 5 hrs ago and just got sucked in.......

I still need to add detailing to it but I need to paint some bits first but this will do for now as I can now complete laying the track now I know how big it really is


 

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Morning.A............


Very modern,looks good. QUOTE but this will do for now


Tch, Tch, can't have that on this layout...........
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Thanks dt and Ste.....
 

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Thanks TFR... I have started to work on the concrete area and the inspection pits but Mr Todd keeps skyping me in an effort to delay my construction so I'm going to work all night


I'll post some photos tomorrow.
 

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QUOTE but Mr Todd, the inspection pits, keeps skyping me

Bit below the wheel axles, that, Mr.A.................Truth be known, tis yourself, Who uses vid. comms. to see if you can copy anything from my layout....
 

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Hi Anthony,
That nice David Todd chap put me onto something in your thread here, the Tracklay system.

I had been working out how to lay the Gaugemaster Ballasted Underlay stuff on a small layout I am designing, as the 2x baseboard tops are 3mm ply. I don't want to glue the track to the boards direct and the idea of a large bag of loose ballast and chasing round over 75 ft of track, with a pipette, does nothing for my enthusiasm.
I was not aware of the Tracklay System before and it looks more straightforward to fit than the Gaugemaster Underlay, although a little longer time to do.

Their website suggests after sticking the track to the Tracklay they should be pinned down to the baseboard. I would prefer to use a bead of glue, perhaps Copydex or even PVA, along the centreline, under the underlay. I am not sure how yours has been attached to the baseboard but guess pins as you are reusing some track and didn't say anything about peeling it up or easing any glue. Do you think that the Tracklay would be OK attached to the baseboard with Copydex along the centreline and then the outside edges would also help attach it where the side ballast is glued?


Question 2, which Tracklay do not address in their website, is passing the Droppers through the Tracklay to the centreline to a hole through the baseboard. There is plenty of thick foam on the Gaugemaster to hide the Dropper wire, is that also the case for the Tracklay or do you have to glue and cover the wires in ballast?


Thank you for reading.

Julian
Gaugemaster thread:- http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/index...mp;#entry270846
 

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QUOTE (Julian2011 @ 15 Sep 2012, 17:02) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi Anthony,
That nice David Todd chap put me onto something in your thread here, the Tracklay system.

I had been working out how to lay the Gaugemaster Ballasted Underlay stuff on a small layout I am designing, as the 2x baseboard tops are 3mm ply. I don't want to glue the track to the boards direct and the idea of a large bag of loose ballast and chasing round over 75 ft of track, with a pipette, does nothing for my enthusiasm.
I was not aware of the Tracklay System before and it looks more straightforward to fit than the Gaugemaster Underlay, although a little longer time to do.

Their website suggests after sticking the track to the Tracklay they should be pinned down to the baseboard. I would prefer to use a bead of glue, perhaps Copydex or even PVA, along the centreline, under the underlay. I am not sure how yours has been attached to the baseboard but guess pins as you are reusing some track and didn't say anything about peeling it up or easing any glue. Do you think that the Tracklay would be OK attached to the baseboard with Copydex along the centreline and then the outside edges would also help attach it where the side ballast is glued?


Question 2, which Tracklay do not address in their website, is passing the Droppers through the Tracklay to the centreline to a hole through the baseboard. There is plenty of thick foam on the Gaugemaster to hide the Dropper wire, is that also the case for the Tracklay or do you have to glue and cover the wires in ballast?


Thank you for reading.

Julian
Gaugemaster thread:- http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/index...mp;#entry270846

I hope Anthony doesn't mind me putting in my 2c here, but I've also been using tracklay and have a couple of comments.

regarding the dropper wires, the foam is very thin and very flexible, so you can simply make a cut in from the side of the tracklay to the point where the dropper wire contacts the rail, and maneuver the wire into position through that. the tracklay can be then made, with a bit of care, to mould around the wire, making a virtually seamless join once it is ballasted. that's how I did it anyway. I found I had to add the dropper wires before attaching the tracklay to the underside of the track. I will be interested to hear how Anthony approached this.

the adhesive top side of the tracklay is quite good, and it is easy to make adjustments to the underside on points etc, such as cutting small holes for point motors etc, but something has to be done to the point tie bar (correct term?) as otherwise it will not move back and forth properly (due to the sticky tracklay). I simply put a coloured piece of paper under it.

anyway, the main thing I wanted to say was that you should be careful what size ballast you use. unfortunately I chose to use fine ballast, without realizing that the nature of the tracklay would mean there was only a thin film of ballast on top of it. if you use this system you should go for a bigger size like Anthony has.
 

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Morning A 566.

I see you have now blown my cover...
"Gossiping on Skype" in your quest for information may have led to this............

your means of interrogation,may have worked.


May have to pay you a "visit" while I am in the North East-ish...........


QUOTE (Julian2011 @ 15 Sep 2012, 17:02)
Hi Anthony,
That nice David Todd chap
 

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Hi Jimmy feel free to chip in


Julian I do use track pins to hold my track as the TrackLay is very flexible and so is the peco flexi track I'm useing so it does not hold its shape I'm sure on point areas and straight sections just sticking the tracklayer down would be fine but I'm sot sure about bends unless you are useing set track ?

I have re used loads of my track with the tracklay on it.

As for ballest I'm useing std and medium mixed as the fine is just a bit to small for me
one thing I would recommend is to wash your ballest if you are useing a stone one as it will have a dust power on it. I just used a very fine sieve and then dryer it in the oven for 10 mins as it will stick a lot better to the tracklay if you do.

As for droppers I have drilled a small hole through the tracklay on both sides of the track section I'll put up a photo later today to show this

Now as for ordering the chap who sells TrackLay has been I'll but his wife is taking orders over the phone so just leave a voice message and your number and she will ring you back it just might take a few days, have you worked out how many meters you need to order ?

Anyway feel free to drop me a line if you need anything else.

Now back to the garage .... As I'm fighting with the track in my TMD area this weekend
 

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QUOTE (David Todd @ 16 Sep 2012, 10:14) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Morning A 566.

I see you have now blown my cover...
"Gossiping on Skype" in your quest for information may have led to this............

your means of interrogation,may have worked.


May have to pay you a "visit" while I am in the North East-ish...........


Mr T tickets are available from my web site www.costsafortunetogetin.com and are only available on days with a Y in them and you must book 365 days in advance
 

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Not a problem.......The horses head is on it's way,just for you,to decide which side of the pillow it's placed...........finer details do count, and add to the drama.
 

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QUOTE (Anthony566 @ 16 Sep 2012, 11:30) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi Jimmy feel free to chip in


Julian I do use track pins to hold my track as the TrackLay is very flexible and so is the peco flexi track I'm useing so it does not hold its shape I'm sure on point areas and straight sections just sticking the tracklayer down would be fine but I'm sot sure about bends unless you are useing set track ?


I have re used loads of my track with the tracklay on it.

As for ballest I'm useing std and medium mixed as the fine is just a bit to small for me
one thing I would recommend is to wash your ballest if you are useing a stone one as it will have a dust power on it. I just used a very fine sieve and then dryer it in the oven for 10 mins as it will stick a lot better to the tracklay if you do.

As for droppers I have drilled a small hole through the tracklay on both sides of the track section I'll put up a photo later today to show this

Now as for ordering the chap who sells TrackLay has been I'll but his wife is taking orders over the phone so just leave a voice message and your number and she will ring you back it just might take a few days, have you worked out how many meters you need to order ?

Anyway feel free to drop me a line if you need anything else.

Now back to the garage .... As I'm fighting with the track in my TMD area this weekend


I glued down all my tracklay, including on flexi-curves. as Anthony says, it won't hold the curve by itself until the glue dries, so I used a few temporary small nails on the outer edges of the sleepers to coax the track into the correct shape. it worked fine but because I have glued it the tracklay will not be reusable in my case. I used normal PVA glue to do this.
 

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Many thanks for the detail from both Anthony and Jimmy and of course that nice David Todd chap for kicking me in your direction.

Without having seen materials it is difficult to see what will work with what, particularly with flexible or soft stuff like underlay. Your comments have given me a really good picture and factual information about dimensions, which would have taken days of experimenting to find.

Many thanks to you all, there are some really good guys out there despite what the press say.


I would have posted earlier but the internet wireless wizzer stopped working for several hours, then the 2 x direct line phones ran out of battery in the middle of talking to the internet provider thus cutting me off, followed by the mobile running out of top-up in mid conversation when I got back to them again. [ One for you David, given the little proverbs at the base of your posts. The router eventually decided to come back all on its own while we were going through the final internal checks with another direct wired router. ] Probably not best described as the most productive day and my 6 yr old daughter took one look at the smoke from the ears and fire out of the nostrils and has been hiding for most of the day.

All the best to you all, there is definitely a pint in it if we ever cross tracks.


Julian
 

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J.11......................QUOTE .Tracklay system......it was mentioned in Octobers' 2012. "Model Rail" magazine...............

Assam Tea, would be fine J, trust me................


QUOTE my 6 yr old daughter took one look at the smoke from the ears and fire out of the nostrils' "not working then Daddy ?"
 
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