New Hornby 4-4-2 Loco announcement!

The images appear on the RailSim forum with due credit given to that forum through a direct link.

I have noticed an edit. This appeared 1.5 hours after the creation of this topic at Model Rail Forum. There is a similar topic on several forums including the RoS one. The author did not even know that this topic at rmweb existed. The edit that has appeared in the post at RailSim states that the images have appeared at RailSim courtesy of rmweb. This appeared after creation of a topic here. It seems unreasonable to suddenly pop in and directly promote another forum on this basis.

Who owns the images? rmweb or the image authors? It seems very odd that the image author wishes to promote rmweb in this way and not his own work but there we are. Why did not the image author simply post those images here if he happens to be a member of Model Rail Forum?

We have observed that images from Model Rail Forum have appeared at rmweb recently. An example being the Dynamis image. No credit was sought by the creator at Model Rail Forum for this and none was offered by the rmweb member who pinched it!

The point of all this is that it should not automatically be assumed that improper conduct has taken place by a member of this forum. I'm saying all this just in case the rwweb boss pops in which he does now and again!

Notwithstanding all this Happy Xmas and goodwill to all men and enjoy the images wherever you happen to go to view them!

Happy modelling
Gary

Oh Neil. You are too straight!

There is such a rule about touting spam at this forum. It was put in place as a result of abuse on another successful forum developed by the management.

Its really designed to curb spam type messages such as the ones above. Where there is something of genuine interest and the forum is not strictly a competitor touting for members (the RailSim forum hardly counts as this because Model Rail Forum is not dedicated to RailSim) then its not really an issue.

I recently contacted the Rmweb management and complimented them on the improvement in the behaviour of their members over the last few months and received a very nice reply back. It does seem that one or two members of both forums have forgotten about forum etiquette.

No one is holier than thow but to be fair to Model Rail Forum members they do their best to get permissions and give credit where credit is due so well done to all of us and keep up the good work.

Happy modelling
Gary

Based on the above would it be fair to say that Hornby ultimately own the images if permission has not been given by Hornby to permit their images to be used in this way?

Happy modelling
Gary

QUOTE I think it ends up with some sort of joint copyright --- in principle neither can use the images without the others permission.

There is no credit given to Hornby by any of the RailSim or rmweb members who have used the Hornby images. I had assumed that they were entirely the work of the publishers.

Really you cannot do things like this and it does put a forum at risk if you do. However the chances are Hornby have spotted this and have decided to let it go.

It is a bit of fun after all and any publicity is good publicity.

I bet Bachmann will issue side on pictures next year to permit similar to be done with their images!

Happy modelling
Gary