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Hornby have announced that their first all new German outline loco will have a diecast body for both the loco and tender. This is the first time Hornby have developed a loco with this feature.

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QUOTE (Gary @ 9 Nov 2007, 08:06) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hornby have announced that their first all new German outline loco will have a diecast body for both the loco and tender. This is the first time Hornby have developed a loco with this feature.

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What is it?
 

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To quote Hornby:-

QUOTE a BR58 steam locomotive, will be
launched in Germany prior to Christmas 2007. This product features a die-cast
body for both locomotive and tender. This is the first time Hornby Group has
introduced such features.

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QUOTE (Gary @ 9 Nov 2007, 18:06) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hornby have announced that their first all new German outline loco will have a diecast body for both the loco and tender. This is the first time Hornby have developed a loco with this feature.

It shows they are serious about catering to the german market.
I wonder if the UK market will ever go back to diecast?
 

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QUOTE (pedromorgan @ 9 Nov 2007, 12:12) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>any idea on a price? (even if we could get hold of one??!!)

Nothing definite that I can find, but my best guess is we are almost certainly looking at £100.00 plus.

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QUOTE Nothing definite that I can find, but my best guess is we are almost certainly looking at £100.00 plus.

Noting the Hornby comment about the German market and the competitive pressures in the market I suspect that Hornby will be offering something special and going for the niche top end customers so I would think £250-£300 RRP would be more like it. Expect Hornby to offer remarkable value even so at this price with a whole load of digital goodies included using top end German digital kit.

I may be entirely wrong of course!

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QUOTE (Gary @ 9 Nov 2007, 13:06) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I may be entirely wrong of course!

Maybe not - £250/300 puts it firmly in the top price bracket.

If it is then I would expect it to have ;
Decent serviceable motor with flywheel(s) & haulage power to suit
8 or 21 pin easily accesible decoder socket - if supplied with decoder something like an ESU or Lenz Gold
LED lighting (not "bluey" or yellow ones either)
Plug in smoke unit
Loads of "add on" detail, moulded in flexible plastic - front drawgear (option of working coupling) piston tail covers ect
Space for sound
Close coupling with NEM pockets
Pick up on all wheels
& last, but not least (if they take the German market seriously) an AC version
 

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QUOTE & last, but not least (if they take the German market seriously) an AC version

Hornby already do AC versions of models for Germany. I googled and did pick up that Roco already do this model but is it diecast?


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QUOTE (Gary @ 9 Nov 2007, 13:36) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hornby already do AC versions of models for Germany. I googled and did pick up that Roco already do this model but is it diecast?


Almost certainly not.

QUOTE (pedromorgan @ 9 Nov 2007, 13:41) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Who cares. its a Roco!

Well said that man!

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QUOTE (Gary @ 9 Nov 2007, 13:36) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>and did pick up that Roco already do this model but is it diecast?


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No, well the locomotive is'nt - some Flesichmann, such as the tub tendered versions of the BR50 & BR38 have diecast tenders though.
 

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QUOTE (dbclass50 @ 10 Nov 2007, 00:24) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Maybe not - £250/300 puts it firmly in the top price bracket.

If it is then I would expect it to have ;
Decent serviceable motor with flywheel(s) & haulage power to suit
8 or 21 pin easily accesible decoder socket - if supplied with decoder something like an ESU or Lenz Gold
LED lighting (not "bluey" or yellow ones either)
Plug in smoke unit
Loads of "add on" detail, moulded in flexible plastic - front drawgear (option of working coupling) piston tail covers ect
Space for sound
Close coupling with NEM pockets
Pick up on all wheels
& last, but not least (if they take the German market seriously) an AC version
That price bracket puts them up against Brawa! Most Maerklin Trix Fleischmann Roco quality locos are 200 quid with the above specs
 

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The report said it'd be ready for Christmas. Hopefully someone will get their hands on one and do a report.
 

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QUOTE That price bracket puts them up against Brawa!

If they match Brawa quality it would be a very good way to get the German market to take notice. Show the Germans that they can do stuff just as good in the way the Germans all know, love and have purchased for years. Then either keep on doing it because it makes money or show the Germans they can have the same quality the Hornby way for less money.

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