[neil_s_wood]

QUOTE (ozwarrior @ 27 Dec 2006, 09:09) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If Flieschmann or Roco did an HST as well as being OTT pricewise they'd have TRACTION TYRES! Why is it continental models are touted as being the bees knees when they still do dinosaur stuff like that? Or do we have a double standard for UK and Continental manufacturers?
Why is having traction tyres dinosaur stuff? Maybe thats why Continental locos can pull several coaches whereas Hornby locos struggle with anything more than three. Remember the reason they are dearer is because they are better quality and have more features. Budget locos have several corners cut to make them budget. Some people would regard poor running quality as being dinosaur stuff.

 

[neil_s_wood]

QUOTE Do you not remember the hue and cry when the 50 came out with tt's in its first batch? I honestly have to admit that went completely by me.

QUOTE My class 50 will haul 15 coaches without pulling a sweat. Cost half the price of stuff from near bankrupt Euro manufacturers and does so without traction tyres.
I'm glad they were able to make a loco that could do that. Maybe they might consider extending this ability to other models in their range?

The reason it cost half the price is because it doesn't have sound or any other features normal with Continental outline. Near Bankrupt, maybe they should employ slave labour in sweat shops like some other manufacturers in order to maximise their profits rather than providing jobs for their fellow countrymen.

At the end of the day I don't care whether it has them or not a long as the loco functions efficently, can pull a load and doesn't derail frequently. Which is why I prefer German and US outline.

If you want to use the term dinosaur it would make sense to apply it to basic locos like those sold as UK outline rather than the far more technologically advanced ones sold in the German and US market. Remember UK outline has just discovered DCC in the last year or so and has just this month introduced it's first DCC sound loco albeit with a German sound decoder. I wonder why they didn't use a British one?

So if you want to apply the term dinosaur you probably want to start looking a bit closer to home.

This is al a bit like listening to a Rover owner calling a BMW a dinosaur. So if a beemers a dinosaur I'm more than happy with a dinosaur.

QUOTE It sounds like the same argument concerning 3 rail AC

It is the same arguement, anything German is bad, unfortunately.

 

[neil_s_wood]

QUOTE My class 50 will haul 15 coaches without pulling a sweat

Just one other thing occurred to me on the way home from work. I have a Hornby Class 50 and at some point I will stick a decoder into it and I will check if it really does pull 15 coaches without a sweat. You can be assured I will report back with my findings!

QUOTE Spice Girls?
I think Brian was referring to model rail. Although to be fair how up on German girl groups are you?

I'm not aware of the existence of any.

Theres some pretty stunning German girls out there. I'm sure they could come up with one thats better looking than ginger spice without too much trouble?

 

[neil_s_wood]

QUOTE (Dennis David @ 29 Dec 2006, 17:44) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Actually I can list one area where the UK still leads all others ... motorsports as an industry.
We could probably get a few more onto that list like music, TV shows and comedy. Insurance and Whisky too. We're pretty good at weapons production and sales too. Wanna buy a used nuclear sub or two?

 

[neil_s_wood]

QUOTE The main point is that in model railroading the UK is behind Europe but they are saved by the beautiful outlines of their steam trains so why is everybody so gung ho on these ugly diesels? That has always been one of the worlds most unsolved mysteries.

I don't understand it?

I guess we better get Hercule Poirot onto it. Oops he's European,

sorry, better get Miss Marple then!

QUOTE Oh and you need to add a little flouride to your water supply. Why do we need the flouride?

 

[neil_s_wood]

QUOTE (dwb @ 29 Dec 2006, 22:06) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>>Oh and you need to add a little flouride to your water supply.
I'm pretty sure that became mandatory during the last couple of years. Now the government are debating (internally, I don't think they've asked the rest of us) adding iron to our flour.

David
I remember reading once that the Yanks were seriously contemplating adding asparin to the water supply at one point because of it's benefits.

QUOTE for just about anybody under 50 there is no memory of main line steam That is very true John but I'm 42 and I prefer the steam locos. I guess I'm the exception. I have to admit this is true I like the GNER 225 and the Scotrail and Network SouthEast trains because I used them frequently to get around.

 

[neil_s_wood]

QUOTE (dwb @ 29 Dec 2006, 22:06) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>>Oh and you need to add a little flouride to your water supply.
I'm pretty sure that became mandatory during the last couple of years. Now the government are debating (internally, I don't think they've asked the rest of us) adding iron to our flour.

David
I remember reading once that the Yanks were seriously contemplating adding asparin to the water supply at one point because of it's benefits.

QUOTE for just about anybody under 50 there is no memory of main line steam That is very true John but I'm 42 and I prefer the steam locos. I guess I'm the exception. I have to admit I do like the GNER 225 and the Scotrail and Network SouthEast trains because I used them frequently to get around.

 

[neil_s_wood]

QUOTE Possibly the intrinsic beauty of so many UK steam designs has enabled the RTR makers to skimp on the quality and detail compared to the productions found in the US and mainland Europe? I thought the lack of competition was responsible. Until Bachmann came along Hornby's product had not changed in years. Even now their new product is reactive to whatever Bachmann introduce to the UK. In Europe and the US there are several manufacturers and this creates competition to raise the standards.

 

[neil_s_wood]

QUOTE (Adam. G. @ 2 Jan 2007, 11:05) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You guys need to swap e-mail addresses and contact each other off of these pages or start a new topic.
The subject started was about HST models and has since side-tracked and gone somewhere completely un-related.
It was originally interesting but now its just turned into boring idle banter.

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