NRM Deltic - New Issue - Nov 17 - too pricey

I bought 2 of the second edition for my own use. A version with sound would have been great. I have my Deltics so i'm happy and I won't be looking for a wooden box.

The first edition versions which came up on e bay sold for big money so the money grabbers tried again with the second edition but I think the second edition version which appeared on E bay didn't reach anything like the price of the first lot & a few of them didn't sell at all which made me very happy .

So if the NRM are trying to tap into this market they may have missed the boat. A sound version would have sold like mad as sound seems to be the new thing. Personally I think the sound versions I have heard are great so for the type of money the NRM want to charge for the latest version I would rather have one of mine fitted with a sound chip. Also if this is the direction the NRM are going with their limited editions future sales may be reduced in a big way as people won't rush out & buy them as more will be along shortly. I hope i'm wrong but I think this may be a big mistake.Trust is a very hard thing to build up but very easy to lose.

QUOTE (34C @ 12 Nov 2008, 15:06) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I am not surprised in the least at this development. Never forget, this issues' purpose is to be a fund raiser for the NRM, that's why it costs more than the general run of models. Earlier editions priced at £95 were sold on Ebay for over double that figure. Commercially, the NRM would be foolish not to raise their price to the same sort of level; as there must be people out there willing to pay that price. The additional money raised benefits the NRM, something that should please anyone supportive of this institution's work in preserving our railway history.

While I can see your point and am happy to support the NRM for the splendid work that they are doing, I would rather pay that amount as a donation to NRM than pay the cost of an item that I know retailed at much lower price.

It is just wrong.... in principle.

Railquest

QUOTE (eddscott @ 12 Nov 2008, 21:54) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Personally, its a shame its that price because I was going to get one - bit too much for me for the loco alone. Still as mentioned they should all sell at that price and its for a good cause.

I guess, I am just disappointed at not being able to get one from this issue as it is too much for me as well.

Doug

The dynamics of demand and supply do hold true and in all probability this issue would be a sell out as well. Sadly I will have to find some other way to contribute to NRM.

cheers

Railquest

I looked on the NRM website for the Delic model details, found an on-line form to submit and got an e-mail back saying person dealing was off sick, so thanks for the pricing and release date info. (I looked at www.nrm.org.uk/models/ )

Looks like I'll have to get a Dapol ex-kitmaster kit, find the spare Lima Deltic bogies I put in the spares box ages ago and make my own!!

Apparently, Halfords acrylic car paint - Lada Adriatic Blue is the correct colour for a prototype Deltic according to Model Rail April 2000/ Gauge O Gazette Aug 2000 but that might be a little hard to get (when was the last time anyone repainted a Lada?)

Other thought is that apparently the Vi trains class 37 chassis is being advertised for about £39 as a seperate item so a Dapol body on one of those could be an answer. (Could use the Dapol bogie sides if proto bogies differed much from production deltic/class 37 bogies.)

That makes it £39 plus 7 or £8 for the kit plus a fiver or so for the can of paint - hey, quids in over the NRM - and I can send them a donation as well. ( Or £13 if the Lima bogies still work...)

Cheers,
Bill

QUOTE (34030 Watersmeet @ 13 Nov 2008, 21:29) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Looks like I'll have to get a Dapol ex-kitmaster kit, find the spare Lima Deltic bogies I put in the spares box ages ago and make my own!! ..

Other thought is that apparently the Vi trains class 37 chassis is being advertised for about £39 as a seperate item so a Dapol body on one of those could be an answer. (Could use the Dapol bogie sides if proto bogies differed much from production deltic/class 37 bogies.) ..
Bill,

Worth shopping around for your chassis. Simplest of all is the Bachmann model of the production Deltic. All this needs is a couple of millimetres trimming from the plastic undertray each end to suit the more curved nose profile of DP1, and you are done; it really is that simple if the Dapol kit is built as an open bodyshell in the same style as the RTR body. The added benefit is that most of the glazing can be transferred to the kit (the glazing tool is missing, so the Dapol kit has none) and other detail can be grafted on if wished. Admittedly the bogie centres are a foot overlength, and the bogie chassis slightly incorrect, but it really doesn't show. Grafting the kit front of bogie frame onto the Bachmann bogies is worthwhile, but otherwise the Bach bogie mouldings are much superior and best left IMO.

The Dapol kit is pretty accurate, and makes a convincing model. Reducing the height of the moulded on whiskers and strakes (these are genuinely slightly proud on the real thing) and substituting wire handrails for the moulded on representations is worthwhile.

While I agree that £217 is a bit steep for the Deltic I would point out that there is a little miss information in this thread.

This is a very special limited edition in a wooden box with a replica makers plate ( I assume full size). I would not buy it but I assume it is aimed at Collectors rather than Railway Modelers.

I believe that there will be more "ordinary" models available in due course.

In the mean time details of the special edition can be found at:

http://www.nrmstore.com/mall/productpage.c...dition%20Deltic

Best wishes,

John H-T.