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Hi all,

New to the forum....

Hoping to learn....

I live in Derbyshire uk and after many years away from the hobby - have started (slowly) to construct an attic layout. A very long way to go!
There is no rush, i imagine it will take a year or two...perhaps longer....

Anyway, hello, looking forward to where this takes me...

Chris Scott

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That's a very suitable space for a model railway kingdom! Take your time researching what's now available in the way of model products. For your planned time period, there's much better bullhead rail track recently introduced from Peco, if you want to consider that. You have the space for larger curve radii in flexitrack, which look and operate far better.
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...I am on a journey finding out about my chosen era....there is a lot more to it than just buying coaches and plonking them on the track...
If you are aiming at reasonable fidelity, coaches are a major challenge. The LMS started - inevitably - with no coaches of its own design; and even by the time BR came along 25 years later was still operating a great many pre-group design coaches, in addition to its own extensive build of coaches in three distinct styles (usually referred to as Period 1, 2 and 3, a classification devised by certain well known LMS modellers studying its operations, which BR then adopted to aid in its understanding of the vintages of the inherited LMS constructed coach stock!).

Some careful choice of location and date span might aid in keeping the required 'coach motley' under control - I don't know enough about the LMS to advise on the specifics. (As an example I have managed this aspect on my BR(ER) steam operation, by choosing a start date by which the large majority of the inherited pre-group stock had been swept away by BR, as it's large scale mk1 vehicles build had by then enabled their removal from revenue service for scrapping.) And because the LMS had direct connections to all the other UK railways, 'through coaches' from the other groups may or may not be up for consideration, your choice...

A book I often refer to, and which is usually obtainable s/h, is 'The Big Four in Colour' the contents of which are exactly as the title suggests.

Wagons now. The LMS had the largest wagon fleet of the four groups, near half, followed by the LNER with well over a third, these two operating over 80% of all company wagons, the two small groups contributed the rest. With a large proportion of these company wagons 'common user', they were mixed up all over the network.

A book I often refer to, and which is usually obtainable s/h, is 'The Big Four in Colour' the contents of which are exactly as the title suggests.
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I would second the comment as to the desirability of owning the book 'The Big Four in Colour'. ...
You can tell how keen I am about it, didn't notice that the recommendation was repeated in my post...:cool:

...As for what era to model, if I hadn't headed in the direction I have, with the major part of my collection being vintage, mostly Hornby Dublo, equipment, I think I would choose the years immediately following the grouping, with the possibility to mix pre grouping and immediately post grouping liveried locomotives and rolling and the ability to have locomotives from different old companies but within the same new company running together (as an example, something as bizarre as a Kirtley 2-4-0 running on the old Highland Railway actually happened). The years immediately following nationalisation would offer similar opportunities.
To which I would add the spectacular effect of BR's 1955 'modernisation plan' which saw steam hurriedly phased out alongside an ill-organised shambles of diesel traction introductions. This was another 'never see the likes of this again transition', which is wonderful from a model selection standpoint, as it enables me to operate well over fifty classes of traction, some of which is still out there running on the national network: thus covering traction designs introduced in the 1880s which ran alongside replacements which remain working in 2022, a 140 year span.
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