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QUOTE (alastairq @ 8 Jul 2008, 19:14) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>half relief winery, a siding or two, maybe an overhead crane for lifting barrels??
hic!
A couple of large glasses, some easy chairs and some sun then sit back and watch the trains go by
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Andii
hic!
A couple of large glasses, some easy chairs and some sun then sit back and watch the trains go by
Andii
sorry to sidetrack again.......does anybody remember the occasional articles in the model press, last century, by a British person, [living in the US I think], who had [hand] built an O gauge French layout? [was it ''Clochemerle?]
He had produced some wonderful old French wine wagons...the one's with the huge wooden barrels?
I found his articles inspiring enough to hand make some [french prototype] open wagons in 3.5mm scale....
I loved his close-up photography....wherein the author established a character for the layout...
He had produced some wonderful old French wine wagons...the one's with the huge wooden barrels?
I found his articles inspiring enough to hand make some [french prototype] open wagons in 3.5mm scale....
I loved his close-up photography....wherein the author established a character for the layout...
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QUOTE (5696Arethusa @ 9 Jul 2008, 05:21) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>A couple of large glasses, some easy chairs and some sun then sit back and watch the trains go by
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Andii
That's the ultimate aim.
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QUOTE sorry to sidetrack again.......does anybody remember the occasional articles in the model press, last century, by a British person, [living in the US I think], who had [hand] built an O gauge French layout? [was it ''Clochemerle?]
No but I would be interested to find out if somebody does know. Sounds very interesting.
QUOTE MarTrix produce some really nice wagon sets, but I do sometimes wonder how accurate some of them are - does not deter me from buying then though
Same herer Brian. In fact I have to pick up a couple of these from the Post Office this afternoon. I will do a separate thread for those though.
Andii
That's the ultimate aim.
QUOTE sorry to sidetrack again.......does anybody remember the occasional articles in the model press, last century, by a British person, [living in the US I think], who had [hand] built an O gauge French layout? [was it ''Clochemerle?]
No but I would be interested to find out if somebody does know. Sounds very interesting.
QUOTE MarTrix produce some really nice wagon sets, but I do sometimes wonder how accurate some of them are - does not deter me from buying then though
Same herer Brian. In fact I have to pick up a couple of these from the Post Office this afternoon. I will do a separate thread for those though.
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Hi Guys,
The 3 barrel wine wagon is a great wagon.
However, if you can get hold of the original production ones, they had taps on one side of the barrels. The later versions do not have these. A real shame as it was a nice detail touch.
John
Has a couple
The 3 barrel wine wagon is a great wagon.
However, if you can get hold of the original production ones, they had taps on one side of the barrels. The later versions do not have these. A real shame as it was a nice detail touch.
John
Has a couple
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QUOTE (john woodall @ 9 Jul 2008, 08:25) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi Guys,
The 3 barrel wine wagon is a great wagon.
However, if you can get hold of the original production ones, they had taps on one side of the barrels. The later versions do not have these. A real shame as it was a nice detail touch.
John
Has a couple
Yes mine didn't have the taps. They were just a transfer or drawing. I am on the lookout for some scale taps though so if anyone has seen any. I'd love to know. I also like the two barrel one they do too.
The 3 barrel wine wagon is a great wagon.
However, if you can get hold of the original production ones, they had taps on one side of the barrels. The later versions do not have these. A real shame as it was a nice detail touch.
John
Has a couple
Yes mine didn't have the taps. They were just a transfer or drawing. I am on the lookout for some scale taps though so if anyone has seen any. I'd love to know. I also like the two barrel one they do too.
Brian,
Actually some of them are quite accurate, especially the Brawa ones. In 1911 the KWStE, for example had a total of 11,089 goods wagons, which included 77 beer wagons (don't let anyone tell you beer wagons are not prototypical!) and 87 tank wagons for various different things, water, mineral oil, plant oil. Esslingen also built several '3-barrel' wine wagons of the type pictured. I'm sure the stats for Bayern will be around somewhere, these figures come from 'Schwaebische Eisenbahn - Bilder von der Koeniglich Wuerttembergischen Staatseisenbahn' from the Verlag Gebr. Metz, Tuebingen - ISBN 3-921580-78-1. This book would be great for any KWStE freaks out there.
I am interested in getting some authentic and 'interesting' trains happening occasionally, thus, things like the Trix 'Telegrafen Transport' 24041 (currently in transit) and the Lilliput 'Umkrautbesichtigungszug' (spelling may be wrong!) - weedkilling train, still dreaming of this - do get the imagination.
Cheers
6991
Actually some of them are quite accurate, especially the Brawa ones. In 1911 the KWStE, for example had a total of 11,089 goods wagons, which included 77 beer wagons (don't let anyone tell you beer wagons are not prototypical!) and 87 tank wagons for various different things, water, mineral oil, plant oil. Esslingen also built several '3-barrel' wine wagons of the type pictured. I'm sure the stats for Bayern will be around somewhere, these figures come from 'Schwaebische Eisenbahn - Bilder von der Koeniglich Wuerttembergischen Staatseisenbahn' from the Verlag Gebr. Metz, Tuebingen - ISBN 3-921580-78-1. This book would be great for any KWStE freaks out there.
I am interested in getting some authentic and 'interesting' trains happening occasionally, thus, things like the Trix 'Telegrafen Transport' 24041 (currently in transit) and the Lilliput 'Umkrautbesichtigungszug' (spelling may be wrong!) - weedkilling train, still dreaming of this - do get the imagination.
Cheers
6991
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QUOTE (6991 @ 8 Jul 2008, 23:34) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Brian,
Actually some of them are quite accurate, especially the Brawa ones.
That's re-assuring to know - thanks for the information.
Actually some of them are quite accurate, especially the Brawa ones.
That's re-assuring to know - thanks for the information.
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As requested here are some pics of the trees I made from the seamoss and Anita Decor foliage. At this point I have only used one colour of foliage. I have another darker Anita Decor one and some Busch stuff with a different texture. I will thicken this up a bit with different colours and textures to make it a bit more foliated. A lot of those track side dvd's show that there are loads of bushes and I have found that the seamoss is great for custom made bushes.
These are the freshly made trees.
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Here they are in place.
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And a couple of warts and all ones.
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These are the freshly made trees.
Here they are in place.
And a couple of warts and all ones.
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looking good neil. i love the trees.
I have always been a bit of a shoebox modeller because of my lack of space. i have never done any scenic work.
The first 2 panoramic pictures really do look fantastic. worthy of any magazine. out of interest, whats the loco?
Peter
I have always been a bit of a shoebox modeller because of my lack of space. i have never done any scenic work.
The first 2 panoramic pictures really do look fantastic. worthy of any magazine. out of interest, whats the loco?
Peter
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Fantastic Neil
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I think you got a better box of Sea Foam than me as you've got some nice height to some of those trees.
You're grass is really good to, makes you think you're walking along the road towards the line some of those pictures.
The only thing that looks out of place in any of your pictures is the little knobs on the ends of the point tie bars, that shows what an excellent job you've made of everything that the only thing out of place is something most people overlook. I've been thinking of cutting them off on mine and I think that you're photos have swung it for me, thanks for posting them.
Andii
I think you got a better box of Sea Foam than me as you've got some nice height to some of those trees.
You're grass is really good to, makes you think you're walking along the road towards the line some of those pictures.
The only thing that looks out of place in any of your pictures is the little knobs on the ends of the point tie bars, that shows what an excellent job you've made of everything that the only thing out of place is something most people overlook. I've been thinking of cutting them off on mine and I think that you're photos have swung it for me, thanks for posting them.
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QUOTE (pedromorgan @ 9 Jul 2008, 19:20) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>looking good neil. i love the trees.
I have always been a bit of a shoebox modeller because of my lack of space. i have never done any scenic work.
The first 2 panoramic pictures really do look fantastic. worthy of any magazine. out of interest, whats the loco?
Peter
Thanks Peter. It's a KPEV P8. This ones a Trix model although there is a Weinert kit which might be more up your street.
Had you thought of doing a small diorama in order to display and photograph your models? Baykal did a thread on this a while back I think.
QUOTE I think you got a better box of Sea Foam than me as you've got some nice height to some of those trees.
Yes Andii, some of them were a decent height. I would still like taller though.
The grass is a combination of types of Siliflor.
QUOTE The only thing that looks out of place in any of your pictures is the little knobs on the ends of the point tie bars, that shows what an excellent job you've made of everything that the only thing out of place is something most people overlook. I've been thinking of cutting them off on mine and I think that you're photos have swung it for me, thanks for posting them.
Yes you're right. I had been thinking that too. I will clip them off as most of my points are digitally controlled. There are only about six now that still need to be motorised three of which are in this area. I'll lose the ones that I don't need.
One thing I would do different this time is to paint the trunk and branches first before applying the foliage. It's a lot easier.
I started a new thread on interesting and unusual wagons here. I have some pictures of the new Maerklin wine car which is based on the same model as seen here. Looks a bit better though as it has been stained.
I have always been a bit of a shoebox modeller because of my lack of space. i have never done any scenic work.
The first 2 panoramic pictures really do look fantastic. worthy of any magazine. out of interest, whats the loco?
Peter
Thanks Peter. It's a KPEV P8. This ones a Trix model although there is a Weinert kit which might be more up your street.
Had you thought of doing a small diorama in order to display and photograph your models? Baykal did a thread on this a while back I think.
QUOTE I think you got a better box of Sea Foam than me as you've got some nice height to some of those trees.
Yes Andii, some of them were a decent height. I would still like taller though.
The grass is a combination of types of Siliflor.
QUOTE The only thing that looks out of place in any of your pictures is the little knobs on the ends of the point tie bars, that shows what an excellent job you've made of everything that the only thing out of place is something most people overlook. I've been thinking of cutting them off on mine and I think that you're photos have swung it for me, thanks for posting them.
Yes you're right. I had been thinking that too. I will clip them off as most of my points are digitally controlled. There are only about six now that still need to be motorised three of which are in this area. I'll lose the ones that I don't need.
One thing I would do different this time is to paint the trunk and branches first before applying the foliage. It's a lot easier.
I started a new thread on interesting and unusual wagons here. I have some pictures of the new Maerklin wine car which is based on the same model as seen here. Looks a bit better though as it has been stained.
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Well I had a go at making a building from plasterboard. Here is how it went.
Fisrt step cut the front to size and mark out the windows and doors. Cut these out with a Stanley knife before taking the front paper of the plasterboard.
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Plasterboard doesn't give you such fine edges as you'll need for door posts etc so I have used wood for these pasrts.
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Here are some of the parts before painting. The roof is off a Hornby pub. I have painted the main facade however I tried tqwo methods to start with. The bottom has wooden edging which is easier to paint but a pain to do as you have wait on the glue drying before you can get cracking with the next bit. The top half I painted free hand.
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Next I did two side pieces. This is only a half relief building as I wanted to see how it worked out before trying anything more substantial.
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Here I have added windows taken from another structure. I have sorted out a chimney and some doors too.
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I had to re do the sides as I noticed belatedly that the roof does not overhang the sides.
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I started adding the drainpipes and pub sign etc as it's about finished now. The paint is still a bit wet. I will do some touch up once this coat dries. I'm quite happy with it for a first attempt. I have learnt a few things now to bear in mind next time.
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This is what I am aiming to represent so judge for yourself how it turned out.
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Fisrt step cut the front to size and mark out the windows and doors. Cut these out with a Stanley knife before taking the front paper of the plasterboard.
Plasterboard doesn't give you such fine edges as you'll need for door posts etc so I have used wood for these pasrts.
Here are some of the parts before painting. The roof is off a Hornby pub. I have painted the main facade however I tried tqwo methods to start with. The bottom has wooden edging which is easier to paint but a pain to do as you have wait on the glue drying before you can get cracking with the next bit. The top half I painted free hand.
Next I did two side pieces. This is only a half relief building as I wanted to see how it worked out before trying anything more substantial.
Here I have added windows taken from another structure. I have sorted out a chimney and some doors too.
I had to re do the sides as I noticed belatedly that the roof does not overhang the sides.
I started adding the drainpipes and pub sign etc as it's about finished now. The paint is still a bit wet. I will do some touch up once this coat dries. I'm quite happy with it for a first attempt. I have learnt a few things now to bear in mind next time.
This is what I am aiming to represent so judge for yourself how it turned out.
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Look good to me Neil - captures the look & feel of the original. I really like the texture of the walls too.
Thanks for showing us.
Thanks for showing us.
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QUOTE (Brian Considine @ 26 Jul 2008, 16:59) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Look good to me Neil - captures the look & feel of the original. I really like the texture of the walls too.
Thanks for showing us.
Thanks Brian. It was that painted stone texture I was trying to capture.
Thanks for showing us.
Thanks Brian. It was that painted stone texture I was trying to capture.
excellent work.....couldn't have achieved such a good random wall texture if I tried!
the use of a sharply-moulded roof [tiles?] certainly enhances the model...providing that contrast between rough and tidy.
as in everything,it is the details that bring a model to life?
what about a seagull on the roof?
[and guano.....from the prototype pix I take it this is a seaside pub?]
the use of a sharply-moulded roof [tiles?] certainly enhances the model...providing that contrast between rough and tidy.
as in everything,it is the details that bring a model to life?
what about a seagull on the roof?
[and guano.....from the prototype pix I take it this is a seaside pub?]
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QUOTE (alastairq @ 27 Jul 2008, 22:00) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>excellent work.....couldn't have achieved such a good random wall texture if I tried!
the use of a sharply-moulded roof [tiles?] certainly enhances the model...providing that contrast between rough and tidy.
as in everything,it is the details that bring a model to life?
what about a seagull on the roof?
[and guano.....from the prototype pix I take it this is a seaside pub?]
It's very much a seaside pub. It overlooks Elie harbour. A seagull would be very appropriate. I will try and mesh it into my harbour scene. I am now regretting doing a partial structure as it harder to mesh in. I think I have sorted my long standing backdrop issues though.
the use of a sharply-moulded roof [tiles?] certainly enhances the model...providing that contrast between rough and tidy.
as in everything,it is the details that bring a model to life?
what about a seagull on the roof?
[and guano.....from the prototype pix I take it this is a seaside pub?]
It's very much a seaside pub. It overlooks Elie harbour. A seagull would be very appropriate. I will try and mesh it into my harbour scene. I am now regretting doing a partial structure as it harder to mesh in. I think I have sorted my long standing backdrop issues though.
Inspirational model making. Great use of plasterboard and other materials.
Really enjoyable viewing
Thanks
Really enjoyable viewing
Thanks
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This is what I am aiming to represent so judge for yourself how it turned out.
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Looks really good Neil - almost good enough to drink in!
Regards
This is what I am aiming to represent so judge for yourself how it turned out.
Looks really good Neil - almost good enough to drink in!
Regards
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