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I haven't bothered doing a workbench thread before as I intended putting most of this sort of thing in my blog. I'm not sure the blogs are that widely known about and some of the stuff I've been working on may be of interest to a wider audience so I thought I would also do a workbench thread.

One thing I have been doing quite a lot of is using plasterboard as a medium for cliffs, walls etc. It has the benefit of giving a more authetic appearance than paper or plastic and in my case, being free; sort of.

While renovating my garage I used a substantial amount of plasterboard and was left with a fair bit as I had over ordered which I had initially intended to chuck, but was advised strongly against doing at the time by my father in law who cited various DIY projects where it could be used. I had been doing a fair amount scenery building with plaster and it dawned on me that the same brick/rock effect would obviously be available from plaster on plaster board as it would on plaster. I had a fair amount of rock cuttings to do and thought that as many of them would be cuttings as opposed to cliffs that I could use the plasterboard to make these.

The plasterboard modelling process is pretty straightforward. I would recommend doing this outside and over a bin if you can. You may wish to use a mask and goggles as this is very messy.


The section of plasterboard cut to size.


Insert stanley knife or screwdriver between the card covers into the plasterboard.


Prise away the plaster on one side.
Continue to remove all of the paper from one side of the plasterboard leaving the other to maintain structural integrity. I initially used a screwdriver but this is incredibly slow and found a Stanley knife far quicker. By wedging the knife in the side and twisting a shattered rock effect can be gained while removing the paper. Once all the paper is removed from one side you can use a screwdriver to add more effects to make it look more like shattered rock.



Once the paper is removed, a series of coloured washes can then be applied to resemble the rock of your choice. For the first coat I used a matt enamel type paint diluted with turps to seal the plaster. The colour to choose depends on what type of rock you are after, white for chalk, grey for Oolitic Limestone, beige for Portland Limestone, red for Central Scottish sandstone. You really don't want any dust getting onto the tracks or into the inner workings of your locos. For subsequent coats you can weather the rock face or add other colouring to resemble the type of rock you are trying to represent, e.g. spots of pinks or whites for granites.



This is the sheet when placed in position on a slope. If you are using water based stains for the secondary coats it is best to do this on a warm day or in a heated room as you want the plaster to dry quickly and not absorb the water. I tend to use several layers of washes to build up the weathered look. I have a large container of stain wash which I apply every time I am out there to build up the layers.



And with a bit of scenicing.



Plasterboard would also be ideal for making brick walls too however once you have removed the surface paper lining you will have to level the surface again by sanding it flat. It may be easier to apply plaster to the surface you intend to look like wall than to do this however it does offer one major advantage; it is difficult to line and etch the plastered surface while it is attached to a structure on your layout. It is comparatively easy to work with a sheet of a foot or so of plasterboard and to etch lines into it with a modelling knife and steel rule. There is also the ability to "point" the brickwork which is best done on a flat surface.

As before the first step is to strip the paper from one side leaving the paper intact on the other to preserve structural integrity.
Having done a fair bit of this over the last month I have found that you now want to file the stripped surface flat if you want an even new build sort of finish. If you do not then leave it uneven and it will represent older crumbling brickwork. The next stage is to use a steel rule to etch the brick work effect into the plasterboard.



The vertical lines have to be done by hand and yes, this is very time consuming.



Next step is to give it a colour wash with your choice of brick colour thinned with turps. I then add subsequent layes of water based washes to weather.



These are added in the form of tiles one by one to make up the area required. Joins can be disguised, if not tight fitting, by buttresses or weeds.

These are all attached with PVA glue. The ends and buttresses can be easily made up from small offcuts.



Here are some pictures after scenicing has been applied to the brickwork.







In conclusion it is a lot of work but is worth it for the authentic effect. It's probably better for stone than brick as bricks are pretty small in HO/OO scales. Here are some more pictures of structures I have made using this technique.













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Excellent results Neil - I really do like the "odd" planks, they add a lot to the overall effect.

Strangely, BRITHO & myself were discussing weathering yesterday so it looks like he will be busy for a while !
Do you use real coal or is there a substitute that looks better - I have read somewhere that the real stuff looses its shine with time?
Great pictures Neil, as always


Thanks
David
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super pix, super efforts, well done, Neil [Morgan has a sloping,or 'vertically rounded' front grill.....unless a very old flat rad model.....MG has a more boxy, upright grill..]

Can I comment on the EWS loads?

My casual observation of these trains notes that the coal carried [for power stations????] tends NOT to be large lumps.....but almost powdery in texture.....I believe the coal is crushed up to a fine sort of dust and injected into the power station boilers....

therefore perhaps a fine black heap in each wagon might be better?

[also, engine driver would need talking to by his supervisor as he obviously drove through the dumping area too fast, some wagons were dumped,others still left full??}

Also, whilst not certain of my facts in these matters...would have to research my library...but I believe the height of the coal heap in the 4 wheel wagons would need to be looked at?

why does coal need to be glossy?

take a look at a coal merchant's coal heaps....from a distance that equates to a normal model's veiwing distance....coal isn't so very glossy...unless it's pouring with rain?

are the loads removable?
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Nice work there Neil, the weathering you've done on those Thralls really does look the part, though I think I'd be tempted to crush the coal a bit more as Alastair said above.

Nice random planking on the 4 wheelers too.

Andii
Cheers for the kind comments guys.

Yes it is real coal. I ran out half way through which is why some EWS loads are empty. I will have to have another trip to Puffing Billy to load up on some lost stuff.

Point taken about the size. I had to crush it in a bag with a hammer and some bits were a bit big. That can be sorted easily enough though.

Alastair, I know exactly the type of coal dust you refer to as my Dad used to work in a coal fired power station which used that.

I'll wait till I get more coal and finish them off.
Hi Neil
Now I know why you have been promoted to "Railways Czar"
Inspiring work
as to the coal- You could "size" it by running it through a screen or sieve and re-crush what does not go through
a piece of expanded metal mesh or cross-checked flat grill (used in Commercial Speaker covers) will do the job
Regards Zmil
QUOTE (zmil @ 26 Aug 2008, 11:00) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi Neil
Now I know why you have been promoted to "Railways Czar"
Inspiring work
as to the coal- You could "size" it by running it through a screen or sieve and re-crush what does not go through
a piece of expanded metal mesh or cross-checked flat grill (used in Commercial Speaker covers) will do the job
Regards Zmil
Hi Zmil,

good idea. I used to use something like that at Uni to separate out and quantify sediment of different grades.

Neil
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QUOTE (Brian Considine @ 25 Aug 2008, 09:34) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Strangely, BRITHO & myself were discussing weathering yesterday so it looks like he will be busy for a while !

Was that discussing - I thought you were telling me that I had to weather approximately 100 wagons (once we've acquired the airbrush etc) after I've painted enough figures to populate about 60 coaches...............................


Seriously though a fine selection of nicely dirtied four wheelers.

Regards
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QUOTE (BRITHO @ 26 Aug 2008, 17:17) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Was that discussing
Sorry - I meant instructing !
QUOTE (BRITHO @ 27 Aug 2008, 02:17) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Was that discussing - I thought you were telling me that I had to weather approximately 100 wagons (once we've acquired the airbrush etc) after I've painted enough figures to populate about 60 coaches...............................


Seriously though a fine selection of nicely dirtied four wheelers.

Regards
That certainly will keep you busy for a while!
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Is Dave for hire?

John

Could consider poaching him from Brian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
QUOTE (john woodall @ 27 Aug 2008, 02:47) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is Dave for hire?

John

Could consider poaching him from Brian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Could be - send me a PM & I'll work out the rates


You could try poaching him but you would have to be able to feed him as well as Maggie when he's here !
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QUOTE (neil_s_wood @ 26 Aug 2008, 23:10) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That certainly will keep you busy for a while!


Don't I know it (groans loudly) - one day I might actually get some work of my own done!

QUOTE (john woodall @ 27 Aug 2008, 01:47) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is Dave for hire?
- Could consider poaching him from Brian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As I've said before the biggest problem is the commuting!

QUOTE (Brian Considine @ 27 Aug 2008, 05:52) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You could try poaching him

I always felt I would be better lightly grilled!!


Regards
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nice work neil. plasterboard could be an interesting way to get that (please dont take this the wrong way!!) imperfect look of older buildings.

Peter
QUOTE (pedromorgan @ 27 Aug 2008, 19:25) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>nice work neil. plasterboard could be an interesting way to get that (please dont take this the wrong way!!) imperfect look of older buildings.

Peter

Yes Peter, That was my thoughts behind it. Buildings like these are stone built from random sized blocks and then painted over. I think the plasterboard gives that impression well.

Neil
Time for an update on my workbench. Most of my work recently has been on my layout however today I did have to create a scenic item on my workbench first before fitting it to my layout. I have started work on the rear section of my layout which is a Scottish Highland scene. I have two backdrops of differring heights and needed something to partition them. I initially did this cliff face however I thought it a bit too flat.



I then decided to model it on a real cliff face to see if that would improve it. The cliff was to be made from plasterboard however this can be a bit two dimensional when used for large items. I decided that three layers of ply would do the job and still fit into the allocated space of..an inch!

The cliff I am basing it on is this one from the Trotternish peninsula in Skye near the Quiraing.



This is the sheet of plasterboard with the rough outline drawn. One metre long.



These are the sheets cut to size before assembly.



Here they are assembled with a first coat of coloured stain.



Some basic scenics added.



From here I have to fit it to my layout so suppose I had better continue over on the "on my layout thread".
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That really does capture the look of the orginal - excellent work Neil.
That looks really good, Neil. Also, it's doubly interesting in view of our conversation in the car the other day - that's really putting your money where your mouth is!!!


It should provide some good inspiration to other modellers.
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Absolutely gorgeous - In reference to SRman's post - I consider myself to be inspired
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