[neil_s_wood]

Thanks for that Nick. That's a pretty interesting site.

 

[neil_s_wood]

Recently I have been doing lots of smaller projects rather than big things. I felt that there had been many tasks that I needed to do that I had been putting off for a while that I needed to get round to. One of which was weathering my locos. When photographing a loco on the new BRMA sound demo layout I noted that what spoiled the picture, e.g. made it less real, was that it was clearly straight out the box; which it was, literally. I resolved to start weathering my stock immediately.

I have weathered quite a bit of rolling stock previously and had not yet done a loco. Probably due to the, "this loco cost me 200 quid and I'm reluctant to dowse it in gunk syndrome". Anyway I got over it. My first effort was my new Bachmann Class 47 with sound. I don't normally go for diesels but the reason I got this was because I was looking at a sound decoder for my Class 31 and found that the new Bachmann Class 47 cost only twelve quid more than the sound decoder for the 31 and would also save some time farting around installing the sound. Once I got the loco I had to paint up the add on detail parts. Unlike some of the Hornby diesels the loco didn't come with pre painted detailing parts so you have to check pictures and pain the ends the appropriate colours. Once this was done I applied various weathering powders till the required effect was achieved.

I had decided to do diesels first however due to an accident, fate determined that my BR52 Kreigslok would have to be next. Terrible shame. In war conditions these would not have been getting cleaned so they would have looked pretty grotty. Unfortunately there are few colour photos of that period so I have had to make do with what I could find. One thing I have found is that the red chassis and running gear of the German locos comes out really well with black turps based wash. It really highlights well the intricacies of the wheels brakes and underneath. The upper body and tender take the powders better. Giving a nice result.

I'm now getting onto the rolling stock hauled by the BR52. I have ordered a few items to add to this train but have been waiting a while for these. The plan now is to work my way through my previously neglected rolling stock and add on all the detailing parts I can and weather them appropriately.

Here's a few more shots of the BR52 on the BRMA sound demo layout to finish.

 

[Ozzie21]

I have noticed the same. The two locos I have ordered off Hattons are on the way, albiet a week late from when my card was charged to when they actually said the parcel was on the way. From Modelbahn I recieved a conformation email but nothing else has happened and no charge has appeared on my card. I'll give it another week then I'll wizz them another email and see how that goes.

Charles Emerson
Queensland
Australia

QUOTE (neil_s_wood @ 23 Jan 2009, 07:31) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I hope so Erkut. I think it has something to do with the German postal service. All my orders at least three weeks from notification to delivery whereas all UK is about a week.

I have dealt with them for about five years now and found them helpful and had no problems. One day I'd like to go on a pilgrimage there with a fully charged bank balance.

John, yes it is the Trix one. Yet another item due for December 2008.

 

[Ozzie21]

Neil, nice work as always.

Charles Emerson
Queensland

 

[john woodall]

The occupation of the scotish highlands is well under way I see~~~~ huge locomotive but only a unimog required?

great stuff

John

 

[ebaykal]

I know that syndrome Neil.

When weathering a 300 euro Loco the brain resists the stroke of the brush that you do.
But eventually you get over it by practice.

Very good job on the diesel and Krieg.

Erkut

 

[neil_s_wood]

QUOTE (john woodall @ 1 May 2009, 16:32) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The occupation of the scotish highlands is well under way I see~~~~ huge locomotive but only a unimog required?

great stuff

John

Still having difficulty sourcing tanks John, now trying to order the Artmaster ones as well as the Artitec

I did order that Leopold K5 so it has something serious to pull but it's out of stock too. Not having much luck.

QUOTE I have noticed the same. The two locos I have ordered off Hattons are on the way, albiet a week late from when my card was charged to when they actually said the parcel was on the way. From Modelbahn I recieved a conformation email but nothing else has happened and no charge has appeared on my card. I'll give it another week then I'll wizz them another email and see how that goes.

Charles Emerson
Queensland
Australia

The items may be out of stock Charles, usually they tell you what is directly available and what is on back order.

QUOTE I know that syndrome Neil.

When weathering a 300 euro Loco the brain resists the stroke of the brush that you do.
But eventually you get over it by practice.

Very good job on the diesel and Krieg.

Erkut
Yes I've got quite into it now.

Thanks for the kind comments guys. Especially appreciated coming from the master of weathering.

 

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QUOTE (john woodall @ 1 May 2009, 06:32) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>but only a unimog required?

SdKfz7? (my military modelling days were a long time ago)

Regards

 

[john woodall]

QUOTE (BRITHO @ 1 May 2009, 19:44) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>SdKfz7? (my military modelling days were a long time ago)

Regards

To me its is a truck and its not a bedford so took a put.

I bow to Daves supperior knowledge!

I would if region specifc tarten could have been used for camo?

 

[ebaykal]

Neil,

I do not know what powders you are using but the true master; Jacq uses a brand called "Bragdon" and believe it or not he makes his own true rust by simply rusting steel objects and grinding at the end in different tones.
The other guys in modetrainsweathered all use a brand called A.I.M.

I am going for both.

Erkut

 

[Ozzie21]

Looks like an 8ton half track to me. Where's the flak88 it would normally tow.

Charles Emerson
Queensland

QUOTE (john woodall @ 1 May 2009, 16:32) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The occupation of the scotish highlands is well under way I see~~~~ huge locomotive but only a unimog required?

great stuff

John

 

[Ozzie21]

Neil, there is a mob who make ready built tank models but for the life of me I can't think of their name. Give me a couple of days and I'll find the name of those models. Do you want WWII or later

Charles Emerson
Queensland

[quote name='neil_s_wood' date='1 May 2009, 17:04' post='87711']
Still having difficulty sourcing tanks John, now trying to order the Artmaster ones as well as the Artitec

I did order that Leopold K5 so it has something serious to pull but it's out of stock too. Not having much luck.

 

[neil_s_wood]

Dave's right it is a half track.

Erkut I am using Carrs powders and some of RJ's new ones.

Charles, Yes WW2, I do have two flak cars but the demo layout is only 1.2 metres so not enough space to bring these out too. The train as run on my layout will have the flak cars at each end with wagons with Tiger tanks and other vehicles on it. I'd be interested in 1/87 tank sources if the quality is good. My difficulty has been sourcing 1/87 that is available. I have found two places that make resin ones, Art master and Artitec but have had no joy in getting them yet. I'm after the winter camo if possible as they are supposed to be headed for the eastern front.

 

[Ozzie21]

Neil, righto Tiger 1's in winter camoflage. I take it that these tanks are being returned to the rear for repair as winter camoflage was applied at unit level as a vehicle was recieved. Another thing with the Tiger is that it has two types of tracks, one for normal use and a set for transport use. The tank as built, this applies to Tiger I and II, JagdTiger, Elephant, Panther, Jagdpanther and Brumbar, were all too wide to fit inside the loading gauge with the standard tracks fitted. On Tiger I and II, JagdTiger, Elephant, they had the outer set of road wheels removed and a special narrow set of tracks fitted for rail transport. On the Panther, JagdPanther and Brumbar only the narrow tracks were fitted. In the UK no tanks were moved by rail when the Ceturion was built as these were to wide for the loading gauge, even a Sherman was a tight squeeze. Matildas, Comets and Cromwells could be moved by rail but Churchill's I think went by truck. When I looked at your picture of the 52 the first thought that crossed my mind was that my uncle, who was an RAF II TAF pilot flying Typoons and Tempests would most likely have shot that train to bits.

Cheers
Charles Emerson
Queensland

QUOTE (neil_s_wood @ 2 May 2009, 08:22) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Dave's right it is a half track.

Erkut I am using Carrs powders and some of RJ's new ones.

Charles, Yes WW2, I do have two flak cars but the demo layout is only 1.2 metres so not enough space to bring these out too. The train as run on my layout will have the flak cars at each end with wagons with Tiger tanks and other vehicles on it. I'd be interested in 1/87 tank sources if the quality is good. My difficulty has been sourcing 1/87 that is available. I have found two places that make resin ones, Art master and Artitec but have had no joy in getting them yet. I'm after the winter camo if possible as they are supposed to be headed for the eastern front.

 

[7113]

QUOTE (Ozzie21 @ 2 May 2009, 00:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>When I looked at your picture of the 52 the first thought that crossed my mind was that my uncle, who was an RAF II TAF pilot flying Typoons and Tempests would most likely have shot that train to bits.

Now that could make for an interesting bit of railway modelling!

Regards

 

[neil_s_wood]

QUOTE (Ozzie21 @ 2 May 2009, 10:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Neil, righto Tiger 1's in winter camoflage. I take it that these tanks are being returned to the rear for repair as winter camoflage was applied at unit level as a vehicle was recieved. Another thing with the Tiger is that it has two types of tracks, one for normal use and a set for transport use. The tank as built, this applies to Tiger I and II, JagdTiger, Elephant, Panther, Jagdpanther and Brumbar, were all too wide to fit inside the loading gauge with the standard tracks fitted. On Tiger I and II, JagdTiger, Elephant, they had the outer set of road wheels removed and a special narrow set of tracks fitted for rail transport. On the Panther, JagdPanther and Brumbar only the narrow tracks were fitted. In the UK no tanks were moved by rail when the Ceturion was built as these were to wide for the loading gauge, even a Sherman was a tight squeeze. Matildas, Comets and Cromwells could be moved by rail but Churchill's I think went by truck. When I looked at your picture of the 52 the first thought that crossed my mind was that my uncle, who was an RAF II TAF pilot flying Typoons and Tempests would most likely have shot that train to bits.

Cheers
Charles Emerson
Queensland
Hi Charles, that was one of the reasons I was after the ArtMaster kit as it provides the extra tracks and wheels for the Tiger's. Previoulsy I had been on a hiding to nothing trying to find spare tracks etc to go with the Artitec tanks but now figure that the Art Master is the way to go as then I get everything I need to make a complete wagon load. Subject to availability of course.

Getting 1/87 Typhoons might be tricky.

cheers

Neil

 

[7113]

QUOTE (neil_s_wood @ 2 May 2009, 13:24) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Getting 1/87 Typhoons might be tricky.

Well, Wiking now do the ME109 in 1/87 - perhaps doing a victory roll over the smoking remains of said Typhoon

Regards

 

[Ozzie21]

Never happen, more likely at that stage of the war it would have been the other way round. of course there was that small incident when the Germans did get the upper hand but lack of fuel and isuperior numbers were against them. I think Walthers do an Bf109, Spitfire and Mustang in 1/87th. I'll check.

Charles Emerson
Queensland

QUOTE (BRITHO @ 2 May 2009, 22:27) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well, Wiking now do the ME109 in 1/87 - perhaps doing a victory roll over the smoking remains of said Typhoon

Regards

 

[SRman]

Just a suggestion Neil, but why not try to get a 1/144 scale plane to model a bit of perspective, i.e. it would appear to be higher up and farther away.

p.s. Sorry I didn't actually get to talk to you much yesterday.

 

[neil_s_wood]

QUOTE (SRman @ 3 May 2009, 13:42) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Just a suggestion Neil, but why not try to get a 1/144 scale plane to model a bit of perspective, i.e. it would appear to be higher up and farther away.

p.s. Sorry I didn't actually get to talk to you much yesterday.
No worries Jeff, there was a lot going on. Bit busy. It was a nice afternoon though. Thanks for inviting me round.

A bunch of Lancasters would look good in 1/144 doing some high altitude bombing.