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So whilst I was in hospital I built an OO-9 model railway on an old door provided by the maintenance guy. I had a decent box load of items as when I worked in Malta back in 2013 I made an OO9 to play with and was working on incorporating this in the main railway to add interest and amusement. I padded it out with a few other items and of course since then I added a little more.

I did need to buy some rail joiners etc and also bought a Peco setback plans for this scale and here I came across the first problem.

The Lynton layout of Parracombe shows this laid in Peco setback radius 1 which is 9 inches and it shows the Heljan 2-6-2t of Manning Wardle fame and I bought one for myself at Christmas being 'Exe' in the 1906 livery, all good stuff. (I live not so far from this river)

However the layout I built had a problem as the 'Exe' would not tackle the Peco R1 as on further attention it says we have to have 12 inch radius, even 12 (305mm) inch is tight for this loco but this also means that the points that are also this radius are barely adequate so you need to use the larger radius electro frog variety rather than the 9 inch radius insulfrog. So Peco got it wrong quite badly, I did send an email to them without reply.

This also means that the area I marked out for the terminal (see pics below) will be too tight and it will not fit the area available, means a big re-think, the original equipment of a small Loco class 99 and some 4 wheel wagons is fine but the L&B locos, bogie coaches and the like just need more space.

Woodside terminal being laid out


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Sometime ago I asked if the Lynton and Barnstable 2-6-2t Manning Wardle by Heljan like the one pictured below would pass through the N gauge girder bridge by Kato, this is a very nice effort and comes in a variety of colours, I had thought to disguise the sleepers by a wooden deck but no, the loco valve gear simply will not pass through the girder bridge as it is which is a bother, we are talking here about 2 mm but 1mm is enough, the concrete style open bridge is no bother however so I may have to think about how to use this.

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I have now had to consider what next, the idea to place the OO9 on the main layout is a non starter as there is not enough space available, so maybe now I have to consider something else, so I thought about a Minehead-Lynton Railway now this might have been too steep in gradient terms anyway anythings goes on my model so the idea is;

1, Minehead GWR exchange sidings something similar to Barnstaple Town - Minehead Quay
2. Minehead GWR - Porlock via Woodcombe, Bratton, Selworthy to Porlock
3. Porlock to Porlock Weir/Quay
4, Porlock to Oare, Brendon, Barbrooke Junction, triangular allows access to Lynton or direct to Barnstaple.

Naturally this line borrows from the L&B, even bits of architecture locos and rolling stock

Hope you find this of interest, just not sure where I can build this now, I have quite a bit of kit, 2 Manning Wardle tanks and a Roco 99, so next will be a WW1 Bachmann Baldwin likely Bridget and I will acquire a Baldwin 2-4-2t Lyn

So there it is I will have a go at a draft plan next and then work this into some suitable space but I have no idea where it will go!
 

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Well I came up with a plan to get some space and this may well work OK, phase 1 complete, in the meantime sitting at home is getting expensive as I peruse Ebay, anyway here is Bridget lurking about Woodside, sorry for the mess around main layout needs a clean up

 

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OK all are bursting with enthusiasm, anyway I spoke about the Kato girder bridge which is here below, available in some different colours, as I said the Manning Wardle L&B locos by Heljan will not quite pass through it whilst the Bachmann 10-12-D is even closer must be 1 mm or less interference you can push it along the bridge but it will not pass freely.

As above the lower photo shows the concrete girder bridge. which is fine for these OO9 locos, dunno if I should cut and shut the girder bridge - it'll probably depend on the final run of track I have?



 

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I think I'd go with the concrete span.
The girder bridges is maybe a bit too techy for a narrow gauge railway?
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Confession time, I admitted and severely shocked MMD back along with owning a diesel, a Double class 8 before they were class 8's, anyway the only one I owned until now! My narrow gauge has now also a Roco 0-6-0 small diesel, wants some Gardner logos really a nice 3LW engine would be just the thing really but thought it could work the quay at Minehead.

Anyway here it is, surely one of the cheapest locos you can buy
 

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QUOTE (kristopher1805 @ 22 Apr 2020, 05:32) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Confession time, I admitted and severely shocked MMD back along with owning a diesel, a Double class 8 before they were class 8's, anyway the only one I owned until now! My narrow gauge has now also a Roco 0-6-0 small diesel, wants some Gardner logos really a nice 3LW engine would be just the thing really but thought it could work the quay at Minehead.

Anyway here it is, surely one of the cheapest locos you can buy
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It may be one of the cheapest locos you can buy, but if yours is anything like mine, it is also one of the best, smooth running locos you can buy!
 

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That's good to know the loco is simply posed and I have not run not yet it would be the dock shunter for Minehead I thought on my proposed layout so that's coming on.

What I want now is a Bachmann Woody Bay station building - so if any one knows where I can buy one of these then please let me know.

another shot of the little Roco diesel
 

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That's good to know the loco is simply posed and I have not run not yet it would be the dock shunter for Minehead I thought on my proposed layout so that's coming on.

What I want now is a Bachmann Woody Bay station building - so if any one knows where I can buy one of these then please let me know.

another shot of the little Roco diesel
 

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Hello Kris,
An interesting additional little project you now seem to have on your hands. Those small gauge engines really do look good, even if they won’t play nicely with the girder bridge at the moment !

In terms of your question / views on which bridge, I too would tend to agree with David’s view, that the simpler style of the concrete (or even a timber version), just seems more in keeping with the narrow gauge theme - no doubt lots of photos to blow that feeling / opinion out of the water; but you did ask lol !

Also given the splendid steelwork arch span bridge in the background on your 2nd recent photo of the narrow gauge area being laid out, it does definitely give the “poor relation” feeling a lot of credence too.

Anyway good luck with the ponderings, and look forward to further updates / progress.
Cheers, Norm
 

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Hello Norman and thanks for the interest, the b ridge in back is a Faller Bioetschattel Brucke but I found this a bit floppy, the original plastic abutments are naff so I dispensed with those, I then added some Hornby platform fencing which I had to trim and these looked at least British in lieu of the pathetic originals, then to solve some floppy issues I added a girder down the middle meanwhile the legs came away so that's not right either.

I then sprayed the bridge charcoal black instead of a wishy washy looking blue colour at least it looks more BR 1962 now.

I'll take another photo for you maybe in a thread 'Towcaster Bridges' - but watch this space anyway
 

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Well that's pretty m much the loco stock except for the class 99 by Roco seen here with a coach from the L&B, these are nearly as expensive as the class 99 loco, so nice but really a bit pricey, I have a few wagons however so maybe I'll add a few of these in Photo form

 

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OK so I am refining the project, unlike the L&B really built for tourist traffic the L&M (Lynton and Minehead) is much more industrial, there is the port at Minehead and at Porlock Weir, so there was coal traffic in from Wales by boat, fishing, Oysters at Porlock Weir, possibly iron ore mining at Brendon (well there was at Brendon Hill about 20 miles to the east at the end of the Somerset Mineral Railway (one for Roger Farnsworth methinks) also timber up the valley from Porlock some basic foodstuffs plus some passenger traffic, if you can think of any other trade then I'll take it too. - Jambutty mines anyone?

The other essential feature is that the railway fell under the control of Col Stephens so he has invested in the WD Baldwin locos (another to come) and the little diesel. The time period would be mid 1920's sort of before the motor vehicle started taking over especially the RAF Leyland subsidy lorries that were bought back by Leyland and refurbished at the Sopwith factory at Kingston upon Thames..

Porlock will be the headquarters and hub of the little system outlines as above and the passenger station will be as per Woody Bay as the builder of the 3 Nuremburg Chalet type buildings on the L&B was a Lynton based contractor who also went on the operate the Minehead to Barnstaple bus service which effectively did the L&B little good.

Also to note that there have been a lot of you all reading this thread so thanks for that but feel free to criticise, comment or whatever takes your fancy and thanks for reading.
 

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OK well I lucked out on the Woody Bay station as it went for £102 which was somewhat more than I was willing to cough for.

Anyway I came up with this idea, in my box room I added two bottles shelving units and that leaves the space at thew back, these two units are 1600 x 600 so enough to get round a curve with the bit between the unit and the wall when I place another board in place hopefully you will get the idea so there are boxed stored both below and above this place.



 

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One for Norman, I have a new photo of the Bietschattal Brucke taken just yesterday shows the whole bridge nicely, as I said I patched it up and strengthened the thing plus sprayed it British Railways pre smoked up charcoal black just like the real things instead of the Swiss blue (does anyone actually paint their railway infrastructure a 'blue' colour let along back in 1962? (Groundhog Day at Towcaster being the 19th May 1962)

Question for you does anyone know if a Decauville 08 0-6-0 loco ever ran in the UK, Minitrains make a nice one and it looks just the sort of loco that Col. Stevens would buy as long as it was cheap, did not do standardisation out Colonel but deffo liked cheap. these locos were built for the French army in WW1 and basically did the job that the Baldwins did for the British.

 

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Hello Kris,
Many thanks for the current pic of the bridge, it really does make for an eye catching structure on the railway, and you did a great job modification / strengthening and finishing wise. Out of interest what’s the overall span between the masonry arches each end, also did it come as a double track kit ? Wouldn’t mind trying to see if the kits still available, even without a current home for it on the layout !
Obviously with your Plan B on the 009 gauge new layout, there’s no possible connection between what ever bridge you may now choose to use, and the original bridge, so you have a blank canvas.
Good luck with further progress on the new layout - would say your box / store room certainly lives up to the name.
Thanks again, Cheers Norm
 

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Thanks for that Norman, the bridge is 1.1 metres long 3 feet 7.5 inches about so it takes a bit of railway, if you go to the Gaugemaster home page they show trains crossing one of these in genuine guise.
I agree it is an eye catcher and gives opportunity for a whole lot of scenic options just I never got the under view right so far.
The real bridge is on a curve at the top of a cwm in Switzerland and as the track curves it comes out as a single track whereas straightened out it comes out as a double track, the Faller model is a double straight bridge however.
The box room has 56 large plastic boxes and the narrow gauge takes up space for 8 more so I am still short of box space! I have quite a few under the main layout but generally those I need access to quite regularly and another 10 in the foyer area. When you have 41 trains on the layout the empty stock boxes alone take up some space and those and the shelving all cost some money!
 
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