Phoenix from the flames! New "Lima" Models!
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I have now put my rivet counting hat on.
I have some good news tinged with a minor possible black mark.
I have the book "BR Main Line Diesels In 4mm Scale" by R S Carter in front of me right now and I have been comparing the 4mm scale technical drawings of body side, front and roof of a Class 37 diesel loco with the example shown in the picture and the shape and wheel and bogie positioning look spot on chaps so a thumbs up there!
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However when looking at the image of the roof fan cowling there is not any evidence of visible fixing rivets to this ring.
Then I have the book "Modellers Guide to Modern BR Motive Power" by Peter Kazmierczak as a reference and certainly for the examples of Class 37/4 chosen the model appears to have the correct front pattern headcode and side grills following conversion for c.1985. including the 2 rivets above the headcode which again is spot on chaps!
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Loking at the second image of the cab and upper body at an angle there is photograph P37:04 on page 26 of the first aforementioned book taken at precisely the same angle and the shape of the cab and roof profile are a precise match so again spot on chaps!
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There may be a question mark over the depth of the headcode rim and light rim under and this will probably form the main area of rivet counting discussion chaps as there is a possible link between this and the extent of the curve on the front of the nose.
The line of the headcode where it meets the nose is not straight at any point and this is prototypical. Any flat spots and it would not be accurate.
Happy modelling
Gary
I have some good news tinged with a minor possible black mark.
I have the book "BR Main Line Diesels In 4mm Scale" by R S Carter in front of me right now and I have been comparing the 4mm scale technical drawings of body side, front and roof of a Class 37 diesel loco with the example shown in the picture and the shape and wheel and bogie positioning look spot on chaps so a thumbs up there!
However when looking at the image of the roof fan cowling there is not any evidence of visible fixing rivets to this ring.
Then I have the book "Modellers Guide to Modern BR Motive Power" by Peter Kazmierczak as a reference and certainly for the examples of Class 37/4 chosen the model appears to have the correct front pattern headcode and side grills following conversion for c.1985. including the 2 rivets above the headcode which again is spot on chaps!
Loking at the second image of the cab and upper body at an angle there is photograph P37:04 on page 26 of the first aforementioned book taken at precisely the same angle and the shape of the cab and roof profile are a precise match so again spot on chaps!
There may be a question mark over the depth of the headcode rim and light rim under and this will probably form the main area of rivet counting discussion chaps as there is a possible link between this and the extent of the curve on the front of the nose.
The line of the headcode where it meets the nose is not straight at any point and this is prototypical. Any flat spots and it would not be accurate.
Happy modelling
Gary
Well , I already have 2 37s but at that price, may be tempted for a third (which is surely why they've pitched the price so low).
I hope they are successfull as the competition resulting may cause another manufacturer to reduce the price of their (overpriced)diesels. After all if Vi trains can do it why can't they. Lets have a 60 now to the same spec as the 37.
Russell
I hope they are successfull as the competition resulting may cause another manufacturer to reduce the price of their (overpriced)diesels. After all if Vi trains can do it why can't they. Lets have a 60 now to the same spec as the 37.
Russell
More details on the Model Rail website:
http://www.railwaymags.com/nav?page=railwa...esource=5549947
Have to say i am getting more and more convinced to get a couple of these each time i look at the pictures. Won't do my bank balance any good, but oh well.
http://www.railwaymags.com/nav?page=railwa...esource=5549947
Have to say i am getting more and more convinced to get a couple of these each time i look at the pictures. Won't do my bank balance any good, but oh well.
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Thanks for taking the trouble gary.
I have just seen that the model is due out any day now! they kept that one quiet!!!!!
Peter
I have just seen that the model is due out any day now! they kept that one quiet!!!!!
Peter
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Well that looks nice it looks like a very well put together product I may just get one of those.
Nice one VI.
Pete
Nice one VI.
Pete
QUOTE (37197 @ 6 Feb 2007, 08:15) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>My sentiments exactly, the more choice we have the better
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Just noticed the name of your layout there 37197, I seem to recall that the shed at Gloucester was Horton Road. Coincidence? I took a load of photographs of 37's there back in 76/77.
Regards
John
Just noticed the name of your layout there 37197, I seem to recall that the shed at Gloucester was Horton Road. Coincidence? I took a load of photographs of 37's there back in 76/77.
Regards
John
QUOTE (BRITHO @ 8 Feb 2007, 13:34) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Just noticed the name of your layout there 37197, I seem to recall that the shed at Gloucester was Horton Road. Coincidence? I took a load of photographs of 37's there back in 76/77.
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John
Thats correct John, Cotswold Rail own the site now, there is meant to be a major re-development of the site in the next few years, lots of interesting stock down here now, it used to be the usual run of the mill DMU's, EWS sheds and Tugs, but now we have Cotswold Rail duffs, some ex Fragonset 31', 47's and 45 112 is now stabled here too
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Regards
John
Thats correct John, Cotswold Rail own the site now, there is meant to be a major re-development of the site in the next few years, lots of interesting stock down here now, it used to be the usual run of the mill DMU's, EWS sheds and Tugs, but now we have Cotswold Rail duffs, some ex Fragonset 31', 47's and 45 112 is now stabled here too
QUOTE (37197 @ 8 Feb 2007, 13:47) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thats correct John, Cotswold Rail own the site now, there is meant to be a major re-development of the site in the next few years, lots of interesting stock down here now, it used to be the usual run of the mill DMU's, EWS sheds and Tugs, but now we have Cotswold Rail duffs, some ex Fragonset 31', 47's and 45 112 is now stabled here too
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Thinking about my "Ian Allan" days when I was a mere boy, I also remember a string of ex Barry GWR loco's there, probably in 1974, (I used to visit my grandparents there when they lived near Barnwood). If memory serves me correctly they had arrived behind a 47 and were on their way to the GWS at Didcot.
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John
Thinking about my "Ian Allan" days when I was a mere boy, I also remember a string of ex Barry GWR loco's there, probably in 1974, (I used to visit my grandparents there when they lived near Barnwood). If memory serves me correctly they had arrived behind a 47 and were on their way to the GWS at Didcot.
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John
I have ordered 2 examples from Kernow (add a pack of wheels or something over 10p and get free delivery) as I think its worth encouraging ViTrains to develop their UK market. The only worry I have (and its a small one at that) is the photo on the peco website looks a little plasticky. It looks like the Yellow is coloured plastic, not painted. Hopefully I'm wrong and these models will blow Bachmann out of the water. In fact with all the recent comments about Bachmanns up coming program perhaps we could ask ViTrains to also produce:
Class 40 (with correct body over bogie height)
Peaks (with nose seam)
Deltics
And a number of other models we're all crying out for (blue pullman anyone?)
Class 40 (with correct body over bogie height)
Peaks (with nose seam)
Deltics
And a number of other models we're all crying out for (blue pullman anyone?)
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Derek betts has mentioned the next releases.
"Roll on the next offers from them - the A2 Pacific and the K1 Class 62000 mogul. Both due for release at the beginning of April."
Where did he find that?? or was he just guessing?
Peter
"Roll on the next offers from them - the A2 Pacific and the K1 Class 62000 mogul. Both due for release at the beginning of April."
Where did he find that?? or was he just guessing?
Peter
The vitrains rep was at Rails on friday with a production version of the br blue one. Rails seems to think they are very good. A couple of local people in the shop also got a look at it.
Unfortunately they forgot to take some photo's. They are expecting another visit soon and promised to get some shots then.
They where very positive about the look of the model.
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Unfortunately they forgot to take some photo's. They are expecting another visit soon and promised to get some shots then.
They where very positive about the look of the model.
Darren
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It will be about 50 pounds each,Thats very cheap!
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A detailed description of a fully liveried pre-production sample has been posted today on MRE Mag
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It seems like a decent model for £50-£60. I wonder how many detailing parts are to be fitted by the modeller? This may be one way of keeping the cost and price down. If this formula is successful then others may follow.
VI Trains do seem to have plans for regular releases each month this year.
Happy modelling
Gary
VI Trains do seem to have plans for regular releases each month this year.
Happy modelling
Gary
QUOTE (pedromorgan @ 12 Feb 2007, 12:06) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Derek betts has mentioned the next releases.
"Roll on the next offers from them - the A2 Pacific and the K1 Class 62000 mogul. Both due for release at the beginning of April."
Where did he find that?? or was he just guessing?
Peter
Commentators on rmweb considered this an early April fool. I for one hope it's not a joke.
"Roll on the next offers from them - the A2 Pacific and the K1 Class 62000 mogul. Both due for release at the beginning of April."
Where did he find that?? or was he just guessing?
Peter
Commentators on rmweb considered this an early April fool. I for one hope it's not a joke.
It does seem that VI Trains are adopting the marketing approach of surprise which Lima also used.
Models will suddenly turn up unnanounced!
A bit like the approach of Dapol when you think about it.
So who knows...
...if VI Trains are seen to be having a degree of success with their foray into British outline then other continental manufacturers may join in and those obscure classes that the two big incumbants shy away from may start appearing!
After all its Heljan doing the Clayton.
Happy modelling
Gary
Models will suddenly turn up unnanounced!
A bit like the approach of Dapol when you think about it.
So who knows...
...if VI Trains are seen to be having a degree of success with their foray into British outline then other continental manufacturers may join in and those obscure classes that the two big incumbants shy away from may start appearing!
After all its Heljan doing the Clayton.
Happy modelling
Gary
I rather suspect it isan April Fool , or at least some wishful thinking.
However if treating it as serious results in the models being made, I'm going to treat it as serious...
I'd definitely have a K1 from Vi-Trains if they're doing one ,it would be ideal for something else I've got myself involved with.
And a middle sized mixed traffic LNER loco to modern standards would fill a largish gap . At the moment all you have is the Bachmann K3 and they were RA9 which is a bit limited (I believe it was only in the 1950s that they were given special dispensation to allow them to run on the GE main line...)
In fact a K1 looks a lot better bet commercially for Vi-Trains than a 37 : I won't be buying one of those , whether Bachmann, Hornby, or Vi-Trains
If we keep treating this as fact, it may turn up in our local shops......
However if treating it as serious results in the models being made, I'm going to treat it as serious...
I'd definitely have a K1 from Vi-Trains if they're doing one ,it would be ideal for something else I've got myself involved with.
And a middle sized mixed traffic LNER loco to modern standards would fill a largish gap . At the moment all you have is the Bachmann K3 and they were RA9 which is a bit limited (I believe it was only in the 1950s that they were given special dispensation to allow them to run on the GE main line...)
In fact a K1 looks a lot better bet commercially for Vi-Trains than a 37 : I won't be buying one of those , whether Bachmann, Hornby, or Vi-Trains
If we keep treating this as fact, it may turn up in our local shops......
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