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Did anyone see the WW2 movie Charlotte Gray on C4 last Saturday night? The French resistance team were blowing up an arms train - so what loco did they use? That's right, a BR standard 9F 2-10-0 (92240, I think). I wouldn't have known a French or German steam loco from my elbow, so why use a British one built 10 years after the war ended? Who researches these things? May as well have had the Nazis driving around in Morris Minors, using a convertible 1000 as a staff car.

Totally ruined the movie for me, much to my wife's amusement!

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QUOTE (Purley Oaks @ 5 May 2008, 17:03) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Did anyone see the WW2 movie Charlotte Gray on C4 last Saturday night? The French resistance team were blowing up an arms train - so what loco did they use? That's right, a BR standard 9F 2-10-0 (92240, I think). I wouldn't have known a French or German steam loco from my elbow, so why use a British one built 10 years after the war ended? Who researches these things? May as well have had the Nazis driving around in Morris Minors, using a convertible 1000 as a staff car.

Totally ruined the movie for me, much to my wife's amusement!

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You're supposed to get lost in the drama of the moment and not caught up in such details. Time to wear the anorak in bed ?

Well done though for spotting the error.

It's like seeing some of those westerns with

a. watches on wrists of indians (or cavalry men)
b. electricity pylons or some such modern (at the time) element in the landscape.

Though spotting the era and colours of the loco.

That's a good one.

Nice one

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On the subject of movie errors the one that always earns me a thump from Maggie is when I complain about the DB isignia on the locomotive & coaches in "The Great Escape" !

There is simply no excuse for not getting a major prop like a railway locomotive correct.
 

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I'll have to get more tuned into such details. However, to most people it is just a train and doesn't need to be more than that. I think I would notice the DB though (must look out for it next time)

My favourite thing about watching some movies is falling asleep

The rest of the time I do get absorbed and wouldn't notice unless I actively look at the detAILS AND/OR THE BACKGROUND.



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QUOTE (Basil @ 5 May 2008, 18:26) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'll have to get more tuned into such details. However, to most people it is just a train and doesn't need to be more than that.

Ah, but we notice the trains in the same way that people watch the cars or notice things like TV aerials !

I once saw a WWII movie that had a Land Rover in it !

Ar'nt we good at digressing on MRF ?
 

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"Horton's Guide to Britain's Railways in Feature Films" comments that there are a number of railway scenes in Charlotte Gray: '...none of which sadly feature WW2 traction...'.

The film starts with K2 2-6-0 62005 crossing Glenfinnan viaduct. The rest of the film is shot on the Bluebell railway except for the aftermath of the 'big bang' donewith mockups at Chertsy.

Brian's comment about a Landrover in a WW2 film is a reference to near the end of 'Ice Cold in Alex' when as the German officer is taken off under escort a Series 1 Landrover is visible parked near the building they are leaving.

Both Horton's book and its precursor 'Railways on the Screen' by the late John Huntley both list many examples of inappropriate locos and rolling stock appearing in films.

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QUOTE (John Webb @ 5 May 2008, 19:34) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Brian's comment about a Landrover in a WW2 film is a reference to near the end of 'Ice Cold in Alex' when as the German officer is taken off under escort a Series 1 Landrover is visible parked near the building they are leaving.
Thanks for putting my mind at rest John - it's been bugging me since my post !
 

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QUOTE You're supposed to get lost in the drama of the moment and not caught up in such details. Time to wear the anorak in bed ?

Speaking of anoraks and railway anachronisms, or maybe that should be Parkas, there's a glimpse of an HST in Quadrophenia....

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It's funny when you think about how much money they spend on films and TV programs and they get the research wrong. If it's any consolation they get ships badly wrong too and also history, have any of you seen the two abysmally researched films about Elizabeth of England? They're so historically inaccurate they could have been made by Americans.
 

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They haven't even invented continuous brakes in films yet or dead mans handles. I read once that the LNER stopped film companies using their trains because one director had a story of an LNER runnaway train.
To see the DB in the Great Escape you have to watch really closely and rewind a few times. And I'm still not sure if they changed the B to an R. It's strange that so many people comment on that item, but very few comment on the fact that Roger Bartlett should actually be Roger Bushell.
 

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QUOTE (John Webb @ 5 May 2008, 19:34) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Brian's comment about a Landrover in a WW2 film is a reference to near the end of 'Ice Cold in Alex' when as the German officer is taken off under escort a Series 1 Landrover is visible parked near the building they are leaving.

I also seem to recall that a LWB series 1 is parked outside the control; tower in 633 squadron.

Mind you, sad person that I am I actually stayed up and watched Runaway Train on the Beeb last night. I really wished I hadn't bothered - as an action film it was ok but................................

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QUOTE (Brian Considine @ 6 May 2008, 23:18) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>He's admitted it, at long last


I just knew you wouldn't be able to resist a comment there


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Is that the one with the crims who stow aboard a train and the driver has a heart attack while leaning out of the train and they end up on that really long, really pointless line?.........Not seen it.......
 

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QUOTE (hairyhandedfool @ 7 May 2008, 09:53) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is that the one with the crims who stow aboard a train and the driver has a heart attack while leaning out of the train and they end up on that really long, really pointless line?.........Not seen it.......

Yup - that's the one.

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Not really revolving around railways but one of the most modern American blunders is Mission Impossible:

French TGV with no pantograph on a non-electrified line pretending to be a vaguely similar Eurostar on the very electrified Channel tunnel route in Kent.
 

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QUOTE (hairyhandedfool @ 7 May 2008, 12:08) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Not really revolving around railways but one of the most modern American blunders is Mission Impossible:

As in "Mission completely unbelievable" - how do you fly a helicopter through the channel tunnel?

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