the train is on the main track and yes they are live frog points which i was told to buy for dcc! so basically all the points will have to be wired then? i thought this was the hole point of dcc to stop all those dang wires!! the decoder is a tcs m1-uk. Can you explain it again about the point wiring as i'm confused wiring and polarity baffles me thats why i went dcc not dc!! good job i only have 1 oval down at the moment then?? oh thanks for the replies.