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I recently bought a Fleischmann class 52 in N which was preweathered. It looked a lot different than the official photo, infact it looks really filthy. Just wondering, whats the general opinion on weathered locos and stock? Here's a Trix example;

 

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I haven't seen any of the Trix weathered items, so can't comment on them. Having said that I have seen examples of both Hornby and Bachmann weathered stock. My main criticism is that the weathering appears to "even" and lacks the tonal quality of real weathering.

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I like the weathered models I have bought from Hornby. If its to uniform I add a little bit but the factoryweathering is always a good basis for me.
Have seen the Trix 44 and liked it very much.
Its a pity there are no Austrian or Italian ones factory weathered.....

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I am disappointed with factory ''weathering''...Hornby's efforts seem focussed on a quick flash-over of underframe dirt, or track colour.

Others I have seen are of a similar vein..ie dirtying done as quickly and simply as possible.

A slow read through Martyn Welch's book, ''The art of weathering'' suddenly makes one acutely aware that a quick blow job with an airbrush just doesn't hack it.

To my jaded eyes factory weathering ranks alongside plated wheel treads.

A decent weathering job, with the accompanying evidence of good, specific photographs ...all of which would add likley figures of 50% price increase, might do the trick.

what is obvious to me is that, although manufacturers spend much time and effort replicating authentic liveries, the 'weathered' side is but lip service.
 

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I recently bought a Fleischmann class 52 in N which was preweathered. It looked a lot different than the official photo, infact it looks really filthy. Just wondering, whats the general opinion on weathered locos and stock? Here's a Trix example;

Thats what a loco should look like


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QUOTE (adecoaches26point4 @ 27 Sep 2007, 21:20) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Simonj.

I recently bought a Fleischmann class 52 in N which was preweathered. It looked a lot different than the official photo, infact it looks really filthy. Just wondering, whats the general opinion on weathered locos and stock? Here's a Trix example;
Thats what a loco should look like

David

The tanker wagons look good weathered, I got a set plus a few extra ones by FMN. Unlike the loco, they look exactly like the press photos.





The actual model of the loco has virtually no red visible unlike the stock photo. How do you set up a gallery on this site to place photos I've taken?
 

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QUOTE (alastairq @ 27 Sep 2007, 18:52) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I am disappointed with factory ''weathering''...Hornby's efforts seem focussed on a quick flash-over of underframe dirt, or track colour.

Others I have seen are of a similar vein..ie dirtying done as quickly and simply as possible.

A slow read through Martyn Welch's book, ''The art of weathering'' suddenly makes one acutely aware that a quick blow job with an airbrush just doesn't hack it.

Alas too true I fear. Personally when weathering I use a mixture of enamels, acrylics, pastels, cake decorating powders and a strange mixture of water the brushes have been washed in with a little PVA.

I reckon to do a box van to my satisfaction in about two hours.

This would mean that a standard 12 ton OO box van would cost around £30.00...........................

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Factory weathered engines may not be brilliant, but I think they are much better than shiny ones that look as if the've been polished within an inch of their lives. I have recently bought a Hornby 8F and Bachmann Jubilee, both pre-weathered, and I'm quite happy with them. Perhaps I'm easy to please.
 

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QUOTE (Thomas @ 3 Oct 2007, 13:39) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Trix a great job with this one:

I think it would be fair to say that that is not just a pass with an air brush.......

I could be sorely tempted.

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QUOTE (BRITHO @ 3 Oct 2007, 13:43) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think it would be fair to say that that is not just a pass with an air brush.......

I could be sorely tempted.
Definitely looks like multiple applications on both the Trix models on this thread to build up and blend the deposits realistically. Although this sort of effect takes time to build up when done by hand, a well developed production finishing process could obtain this result from a programme of multiple light applications from several airbrushes, to simulate the way deposits arrive on the item being weathered: sprayed up from the track, showering down from above, dust from the brakes, distributed by the airflow, rain and other accidental events. I have no interest in the factory applied weathering from Hornby and Bachmann, but these Trix examples are in a way different class.
 

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QUOTE (BRITHO @ 3 Oct 2007, 13:43) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think it would be fair to say that that is not just a pass with an air brush.......

I could be sorely tempted.

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So could I - just as well I have absolutely no excuse to run one on St.Laurent, so I'm safe.
 

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QUOTE (34C @ 3 Oct 2007, 14:57) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have no interest in the factory applied weathering from Hornby and Bachmann, but these Trix examples are in a way different class.

A bit like the models in general.

The Trix (& of course Marklin) weathering is definatly more than a pass or two from the same airbrush.
 

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QUOTE (dbclass50 @ 3 Oct 2007, 15:06) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So could I - just as well I have absolutely no excuse to run one on St.Laurent, so I'm safe.

Errr, and since when did that stop you?

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Hi,

I have the "500 years post" set (2890) of Marklin and I think the weathering on the rolling stock is great. I agree to dbclass50 in Marklin not applying weathering to items "just the same", at least the ones i have all look different from each other. i don't have weathered stock or lokos from other producers, so cannot comment.

Cem.
 
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