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Hi,

I like to queries whether LokSound micro V3.5 is compatible to install on Minitrix Loco

Questions:
1) Can LokSound micro V3.5 be install in Minitirx Loco, come with NEM 651 digital connector?
2) If yes, may you recommend which Lok Sound Micro (Part/order number or Motor Description) is use for my loco? (BR 41 - a Steam loco, BR V200 - Diesel loco, BR 403/406 -
ICE3)
3) Is the installation easy when using your decoder? Plug n play?

I have posted to ESU and Tony Train exchange for some queries but yet to get any reply from them

I am new to model train and just got a Analog Start Set. After some research ,decided to go into DCC. Intend to get NCE Power Cab as controller and Sounder Decoder from ESU.

I am located in Asia (Singapore) where only very little people going into this hobby and there isn't much store that sell modeling stuff ...Well, there is only one at least but limited choice there....the place where I got my minitrix analog starter set but they only carry Marklin n Trix stuff and very limited accessories also. I will have to rely on US store to import the things in.

Could anyone advise me on my queries?

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Hello Ryan

Welcome to the Forum

There are loads of Online retailers worldwide
for some reason the ESU loksound , although European , is cheaper to buy from the USA
Converting N gauge is not easy as there is limited space and it may be better for you to send your Loco's to a
professional to install as a small mistake could fry the decoder

DCC concepts in Perth W Australia stocks ESU and does a very good job of installing
Speak ( or write) to Richard and he will give you non biased , practical advice . He also stocks the NCE powercab

You can find his webpage and contact details Here
It is not really setup like an on line store , but there is lots of Info on the site.

The good thing about N gauge is that it is cheap to post


Hope this helps

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QUOTE (aklryan @ 17 Nov 2008, 15:56) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Questions:
1) Can LokSound micro V3.5 be install in Minitirx Loco, come with NEM 651 digital connector?
2) If yes, may you recommend which Lok Sound Micro (Part/order number or Motor Description) is use for my loco? (BR 41 - a Steam loco, BR V200 - Diesel loco, BR 403/406 -
ICE3)
3) Is the installation easy when using your decoder? Plug n play?

Could anyone advise me on my queries?

Best Regards,
Ryan

Hi Ryan,

1) Yes it can.

2)52685,picture below:



3) If you have a NEM 651 socket in your loco, just plug & play.

Hope this helps

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Hi Baykal,

The part seems belong to LokPilot micro. How about LokSound micro V3.5? I wanted to get a decoder with sound.


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QUOTE (ebaykal @ 18 Nov 2008, 20:07) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi Ryan,

1) Yes it can.

2)52685,picture below:



3) If you have a NEM 651 socket in your loco, just plug & play.

Hope this helps

Baykal

Hi Baykal,

I saw this from the ESU website



Can this fit into my loco?
Any idea the part number? Because I have Steam. Diesel n A ICE train.

Still no reply from ESU


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Ryan,

The size might be the limiting factor, to be honest I do not know if there is any space for a loudspeaker available in your loco.

The size of the V3,5 micro is 28mm x 10mm x 5 mm and the size of the loudspeaker 16 x 25mm. See if there is a place available in these sizes in your loco. Just one product, loksound V3,5 micro, no product number.

If I were you I'd cut two pieces of card board at these dimensions and make a trial before purchasing.

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Hi Baykal,

Thank you for your advise. It seem there isn't any just fit into size Sound decoder with speaker to any loco. I will try your method to find out. Infact I was confuse to see to many order from Tony Exchange : http://tonystrains.com/products/esu_micro.htm
That is why I ask about which part number for my loco

By the way wonder you have any idea this soundtraxx is a good alternative? Meaning this can be even more compact (like smaller decoder & speaker) to fit into a N gauge loco with NEM 651 connector? I notice the speaker come as a separate, true? Also any idea which one to go for........ too many kind on the website ..... some of them even no picture.

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***The ESU Micro is the better alternative for N scale.... US makers like soundtraxx do not acknowledge NEM651 at all.

Use Ebaykals suggestion for size evaluation, however you may find you have to remove the connector and hardwire to have enough space to fit a sound decoder in N scale - or even mill out some of the chassis metal.

N scale sound is NOT an easy instalation most of the time, sorry.

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lok micro is your only option and I wouldnt even consider keeping the 651 plug. You will need to hardwire it to save space. As to these loco's I cant help. One other problem I have found with loksound 6 pin plugs sometimes the 6 pins (male) are not long enough to give a good contact with the female nem plug (depending on manufacturer). Another reason to hardwire.

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Hi Richard and Martin,

Thank you for valuable reply. So I better stick to ESU Micro since is design more towards Euro loco.

Richard, I shall drop you personnel email to inquire more information, let see whether we have chance to proceed further

Not to forget Zmil introduction


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QUOTE (Martin71 @ 21 Nov 2008, 15:40) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi

lok micro is your only option and I wouldnt even consider keeping the 651 plug. You will need to hardwire it to save space. As to these loco's I cant help. One other problem I have found with loksound 6 pin plugs sometimes the 6 pins (male) are not long enough to give a good contact with the female nem plug (depending on manufacturer). Another reason to hardwire.

m

*** Actually thats not the problem - its that the female is a 2 part connector with the top snaped into place, and some, more often than not in the FLM locos, are too lose to grip the pins properly

QUOTE (Lancashire Fusilier @ 24 Nov 2008, 14:44) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I understand


*** Same result.... unsatisfactory performance but with the boot on the other foot so to speak


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hi 'the nem 6 pin gaugemaster decoder i bought for my farish 37' diddnt fit snug' pins are too long' thats possibly why it wasnt excepting the commands correctly' so obviously some decoders dont suit certain brands of locos' gaugemaster
decoders are not compatible with farish from my experience' although minitrix and others may be compatible.
 
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