Hi Ray Glad you decided to stay with us. The Plan looks busy plenty to hold your interest is it one of CJ Freezers from trackplans for various locations? I've been trying to get a copy had one on order for 3 weeks i've been told it should come this week. mmm ! Like you i'm hoping that it will give me some inspiration. So if this is based around Hereford what will you be running period and stock wise ?Good luck with sorting your garage been there now got some baseboards to build. Cheers Jim
Ray's new layout - based on North Wales' Coast line
Hi folks,
Well as I am going on holiday for 3 weeks, I thought I would commit myself into building a new layout on my return. My last effort was a 9ft x 4ft point to point with continuous run, but the curves were too tight and lots of locos can't run properly on it. So it will be ripped up in the near future and a new continuous run 10ft x 5ft (or 10ft x 6ft if I can squeeze it in) will be built in my garage.
The new plan will be a purely fictitious station, MPD and goods yard somewhere on the North Wales Coast line.
This is an 8ft x 4ft version designed by S. Jay that I will slightly modify.
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There are several reasons for choosing the North Wales location (even though you won't glimpse the sea on this layout!).
First I am a LMS man even though I was born in GWR country (Hereford)
There was a large amount of traffic on the line, freight and passenger, especially with summer holiday traffic. Crack expresses like the Irish Mail and small local trains, it's all there!
I can run just about everything the LMS used from small tank to pacific and still be prototypical (except perhaps for the Coronation Scot - I have no record of that - but it won't stop me!)
There was some interesting architecture to be seen on the line.
In BR days, some unusual visitors were seen including B1's and even the Gas Turbine GT3.
I have a large loco stock so I wanted to include a MPD, just to have a few on display and operational.
The design is interesting enough to operate three trains (2 passenger and one goods), with plenty of scope for exchange of engines and also some shunting.
So that is the plan. I will take this thread all the way from baseboard construction, to track laying, wiring (DC not DCC) and scenics (mainly urban).
I will try to salvage some stuff from my old layout but there will be a new LNWR station building, Bangor style footbridge and other interesting bits and pieces. Other bits, like Engine Shed and Signal Boxes, I have already prepared (see Ray's Building Site thread below).
That's all for the moment, will continue in May, all being well.
Well as I am going on holiday for 3 weeks, I thought I would commit myself into building a new layout on my return. My last effort was a 9ft x 4ft point to point with continuous run, but the curves were too tight and lots of locos can't run properly on it. So it will be ripped up in the near future and a new continuous run 10ft x 5ft (or 10ft x 6ft if I can squeeze it in) will be built in my garage.
The new plan will be a purely fictitious station, MPD and goods yard somewhere on the North Wales Coast line.
This is an 8ft x 4ft version designed by S. Jay that I will slightly modify.
There are several reasons for choosing the North Wales location (even though you won't glimpse the sea on this layout!).
First I am a LMS man even though I was born in GWR country (Hereford)
There was a large amount of traffic on the line, freight and passenger, especially with summer holiday traffic. Crack expresses like the Irish Mail and small local trains, it's all there!
I can run just about everything the LMS used from small tank to pacific and still be prototypical (except perhaps for the Coronation Scot - I have no record of that - but it won't stop me!)
There was some interesting architecture to be seen on the line.
In BR days, some unusual visitors were seen including B1's and even the Gas Turbine GT3.
I have a large loco stock so I wanted to include a MPD, just to have a few on display and operational.
The design is interesting enough to operate three trains (2 passenger and one goods), with plenty of scope for exchange of engines and also some shunting.
So that is the plan. I will take this thread all the way from baseboard construction, to track laying, wiring (DC not DCC) and scenics (mainly urban).
I will try to salvage some stuff from my old layout but there will be a new LNWR station building, Bangor style footbridge and other interesting bits and pieces. Other bits, like Engine Shed and Signal Boxes, I have already prepared (see Ray's Building Site thread below).
That's all for the moment, will continue in May, all being well.
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What hight do you plan to start your baseboards at?
Goodluck with the garage and the new build.
regards,
Derek
For those interested, this is the book where I got the plan. Quite a good selection in here.
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I would also recommend C.J.Freezer's books on Signalling (ideal for novices to signalling such as myself) and also Operation (gives you a grounding on how railways actually operated).
Also books on North Wales Coast :-
North Wales Steam Vols 1 & 2 by E. N. Kneale
London Midland Steam in North Wales by W. G. Rear
Steam on the North Wales Coast by Michael Jones
British Railways Past & Present No. 36 North Wales Part 2 (Can't see Part 1 though!)
British Railways Past & Present No. 6 Chester & North Wales
also British Railways in Colour - The London Midland Region by Alan Earnshaw & Kevin Derrick (General LMS - good for colour referencing)
I would also recommend C.J.Freezer's books on Signalling (ideal for novices to signalling such as myself) and also Operation (gives you a grounding on how railways actually operated).
Also books on North Wales Coast :-
North Wales Steam Vols 1 & 2 by E. N. Kneale
London Midland Steam in North Wales by W. G. Rear
Steam on the North Wales Coast by Michael Jones
British Railways Past & Present No. 36 North Wales Part 2 (Can't see Part 1 though!)
British Railways Past & Present No. 6 Chester & North Wales
also British Railways in Colour - The London Midland Region by Alan Earnshaw & Kevin Derrick (General LMS - good for colour referencing)
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I must say that this plotting out full size has turned out to be a useful exercise.
I have managed to squeeze in another siding onto the bottom sidings and found out that my amended pointwork for the coaling stage and goods headshunt had to be swapped around because the headshunt curve would be too tight.
Better finding out now instead of when I came to construct it !
The good news is that it all seems to fit.
It is only when you see 11ft of drawing that you discover just how big it is and just what you have let yourself in for ! Having said that I should really crack on with dismantling and clearing space in the garage!
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I have managed to squeeze in another siding onto the bottom sidings and found out that my amended pointwork for the coaling stage and goods headshunt had to be swapped around because the headshunt curve would be too tight.
Better finding out now instead of when I came to construct it !
The good news is that it all seems to fit.
It is only when you see 11ft of drawing that you discover just how big it is and just what you have let yourself in for ! Having said that I should really crack on with dismantling and clearing space in the garage!
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Some pics of the lining paper plan...
Overall plan of lower station
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Some detail
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And some pics of adjustments made to the original plan
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Overall plan of lower station
Some detail
And some pics of adjustments made to the original plan
Hi Ray come on stop putting it off and get and sort that garage
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.The linning paper is a good idea i bought a roll of poster paper it was on offer not sure how that will work out.I also got my CJ Freezer track plans for various places at last, it looks interesting when was your plan book published?This one was published in 2010 i wonder if you have some of the same plans. Always interested in different plans as you have done they can be adapted to your own needs is the book still available? What track will you be using will you recycle some from the old layout or start new? The plan you have chosen certainly looks like you won't get bored with which is some thing i'm trying to find. For me i want to keep all the track on one level as it's my first real atempt and due to the the fact 3 of the 6 baseboards will be removable. Anyway will be in my garage tomorrow building the first 2 of the 6 boards having bought the timber today.I'll be following your progress with interest not sure that i'll be keeping up the pace with you though but thanks for sharing your project with us when i've made some progress i'll post some pictures myself. Cheers Jim
QUOTE (PAPPA.B @ 9 Jun 2012, 19:42) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi Ray come on stop putting it off and get and sort that garage
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.The linning paper is a good idea i bought a roll of poster paper it was on offer not sure how that will work out.I also got my CJ Freezer track plans for various places at last, it looks interesting when was your plan book published?This one was published in 2010 i wonder if you have some of the same plans. Always interested in different plans as you have done they can be adapted to your own needs is the book still available? What track will you be using will you recycle some from the old layout or start new? The plan you have chosen certainly looks like you won't get bored with which is some thing i'm trying to find. For me i want to keep all the track on one level as it's my first real atempt and due to the the fact 3 of the 6 baseboards will be removable. Anyway will be in my garage tomorrow building the first 2 of the 6 boards having bought the timber today.I'll be following your progress with interest not sure that i'll be keeping up the pace with you though but thanks for sharing your project with us when i've made some progress i'll post some pictures myself. Cheers Jim
Hi Jim. My book is 1993 but available used. I will be using peco code 100 as I have many old locos. Will reuse as many points as I can but probably mainly new flexi track. Big issue is all that length of retaining wall to build.
Hi Jim. My book is 1993 but available used. I will be using peco code 100 as I have many old locos. Will reuse as many points as I can but probably mainly new flexi track. Big issue is all that length of retaining wall to build.
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Just as an aside, I will be using the Scalescenes downloadable retaining walls (two types) on my layout. With around 20 feet of retaining walls to build this is by far the cheapest option although they do take some time to construct. My main issue will be on the lower "viaduct/embankment" which lowers from 6" to about 2.5". The problem is how to keep any arches vertical - you can't just cut off the base at an angle as this would change the verticals ! Any ideas??
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May have to "design" my own templates as adjusted versions of the Scalescenes ones using a gradient instead of horizontal.
Some pics of some Scalescenes wall I have already built.
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May have to "design" my own templates as adjusted versions of the Scalescenes ones using a gradient instead of horizontal.
Some pics of some Scalescenes wall I have already built.
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