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QUOTE (Al @ 27 Jun 2010, 10:45) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Another little scenic detail do today. A Lancaster bomber that would have crash landed in the field on the west bank of the river. I just need to scratch build a couple of Merlin engines for the debris field to finish it off.
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Planes that crash quite often end up half-buried. I remember a wrecked Lancaster that was found in a field in Tring near where we lived for a while. Most of it was under the soil, the engines were quite deep. If this plane managed to crash-land, then it may be in better shape.
 

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Very true about the depth things can get buried; the forces involved are pretty awesome.

A while back there was a programme on the TV about a 'dig' in London, it seems Flight Sergeant Ray Holmes having inoperative guns deliberately flew his Hurricane into a German Do17 bringing both aircraft down, an act of valour witnessed by many on the ground. He managed to bail out injured before his 'plane crashed; the engine was recovered during the dig from something like 25 feet (7.6 metres) beneath a roadway near Buckingham Palace.
 

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I lot of it depends on the angle the aircraft crashes at. The deep ones happen when it goes in almost vertically and you get the whole aircraft 20 or so feet down complessed to only a few feet long. My Lancaster was attempted a belly landing after loosing an engine and broke up as it hit trees and hedgerows on the way in.

The wreck is based on a couple of photo I have of a B-17 that crashed in East Angila on the way back to base.
 

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QUOTE (Al @ 28 Jun 2010, 12:20) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>and broke up as it hit trees and hedgerows on the way in.
Think of the squirrels!



If you want a Panzer or perhaps a Sdkfz 234/2 poking at the remains then DM-Toys (wink) has loads of N scale WWII stuff, especially of the German variety. Possibly a 1:148 model would look better though...
 

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QUOTE (LTSR @ 28 Jun 2010, 11:49) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Very true about the depth things can get buried; the forces involved are pretty awesome.

A while back there was a programme on the TV about a 'dig' in London, it seems Flight Sergeant Ray Holmes having inoperative guns deliberately flew his Hurricane into a German Do17 bringing both aircraft down, an act of valour witnessed by many on the ground.
Saw that program, really interresting. Wonder if the same would happen now?
I seem too remeber the Do17 was apparently heading for the palcae with both engines on fire. Earlier the Hurricane had nearly een roasted by a flame thrower in the belly of a german bomber, which had failed resulting in his view being obscured by oil.
 

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QUOTE (Putzi @ 28 Jun 2010, 16:16) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If you want a Panzer or perhaps a Sdkfz 234/2 poking at the remains then DM-Toys (wink) has loads of N scale WWII stuff, especially of the German variety. Possibly a 1:148 model would look better though...

The final scene will have a couple of blitz's, a kuble and maybe a hotch inspecting the wreckage and removing the dead. I've quiet a large collection of 1:160 german stuff to make up military convoys and several AAA units defending the bridge. I've also a couple of companies of tanks that I'd intended to use on supply trains. However all the models are white metal which makes a rake twenty wagons pretty heavy. Maybe too heavy for my BR50's to handle
 

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A quiet Sunday morning waiting for the rest of the world to wake up. Ideal time to turn my hand to makeing a couple of Merlin engines for the Lancaster. I'm pretty pleased with the result. Should the part once they're painted.


 

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Don't know how far you want to detail the smashed Merlins (they would probably be quite deep into the ground anyway), but there are a couple at the Spitfire & Hurricane Museum just up the road from here if you want one of the "Euroscale volunteer Crew" to get some pics for you.
 

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Those engines look pretty smart and add a nice touch to the wreckage. I've just been thinking about this, and far be it for me to give advice, but would the windows of such a wreck still be intact given the force of the impact and debris, or would they be cracked and broken open? possibly with metal bars etc poking through them/bits of tree (especially if it's skidded in at a low angle) etc? Not sure how easy that would be to do though.

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QUOTE (LetoII @ 5 Jul 2010, 09:30) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Those engines look pretty smart and add a nice touch to the wreckage. I've just been thinking about this, and far be it for me to give advice, but would the windows of such a wreck still be intact given the force of the impact and debris, or would they be cracked and broken open? possibly with metal bars etc poking through them/bits of tree (especially if it's skidded in at a low angle) etc? Not sure how easy that would be to do though.

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Dave, the Lancaster is based on this photo of a B-17



As you can see in the photo much of the cockpit and turret glass is still intact. The model is just the 'naked' Lancaster at the moment. it still needs to be paced into the scenary and a debris field built up around it.
 

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Fair enough, I stand suitably chastised!
Really surprising just how much of the cockpit area seems to have survived, I really thought the stress of impact would have cracked the windows up; shows how much I know! lol

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Finally got some track laid on Remagen this weekend.

Unfortunatly it's only on the west-end storage sidings.




The board is 1200x900 and hold 6 loops. Two loops serve the up, 2 the down and the middle 2 can serve either.
Each loop can be split in half to 2 giving a total of 12 storage sections.
 
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