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Layout Name Rimenough MPD
Scale/Gauge 00
Size length = 10 ft scenic + 6 Ft fiddle
or 10 ft " + 6 + 2 ft fiddle(s)

Width 2 ft (boards), operating width about 5 ft for traverser and to fit my belly in!!!
height Normally 50 in from ground, but due to "top tip" about Aldi "Extendable
Work station tool" now variable from 30 -50+

Exhibition layout, or stay-at-home?

Bit of both. Built for use at home, which it is, but also quite portable and thus able to do shows, depending on dates.

End to end

Ear 2000- present day, targeting 2002-5
Region - Western-ish EWs with visits.
Whether you would like to be included in the layout register - Yes.

End to end EWS (ex steam shed site) MPD, small modern 4 road shed, the main purpose of which is to maintain and supply 37's for a top n tailed 3 coach (mix of Arriva mk2 and virgin mk2) trains loosely based on Rhymney service.

There is a single track main line at the rear of the layout that sees 153(*) + 158 DMU passing, while the holding road off this can be occupied by:
the top & tailed passenger working, usually pairs of 37 but with the Large logo 37 being paired with a 50 on Saturdays.
EWS hospitality train
67 on 4 coach PCV Mail train
DRS double headed class 20 or 47+37 on flasks
FL 66,90& 57 (*) on way to open day somewhere
66 Top & tailed on short 3 coach Test train
67,37 or 66 top & tailed on snowplough testing

Stock movement on the layout is limited. A fragonset 31, Cotswold 47 or Virgin 57 (*) sometimes visit light engine or with the EWS observation saloon.
Fuel via 2-3 TTA is braught in by 60 or 66 usually, though 67 or 33(**) can also be on this job. There is sometime a stores van that comes with the fuel that contains spares, things like more toilet roll!
08/09 then does a bit of shunting

There is also a water tower left over from the shed's time as steam shed. The odd mainline ticketed kettle visits for water between charter duties, even Thomas pops along now and again!

All Locos are Sound chip fitted (with the exception of the FL 90 which is the only non sound loco allowed on the layout) currently there are class
08/09 (x2),
20 (x2),
31(x1),
33(x1),
37(x12, more to be added with the new Bachmann 37 in 2007),
47(x2),
50(x1),
60(x1+ 1 in works)
66(x5),
67(x5)
with 158(x2),153(x1),57(x2) awaiting SWd chips hopefully this year.

(*) Awaiting SWd version of sound chip
(**) Class 33 awaiting re-vamped Dcc supplies sound chip
Hopefully a rough track plan of my layout is attached?

I`ll descibe the basic operation and you can then tell me which bits are ok, possible and rubbish!

Movement 1

DMU enters layout (10x 2 ft) via track C off fiddle yard traversa (6ft conected to track C +
and crossed over points 1&2 to exit layout via track A or it stops, then exits layout via track B.

Same for light engine.

Movement 2

Top and tailed 3 coach train enters from fiddle yard over track C runs into Track D. It later then returns to fiddle yard the same way it came in.

Movement 3

Frieght train enters from fiddle yard via track C and runs into track D, stopping between points (4) and (20). It the runs round via point (4) onto track E then crosses to onto F. Stops, then backs onto the rear of the train on track D via points (21)+(20)

Movement 4

Light engine comes onto layout via track C enters Depot via point (3) and runs onto track G . From here it can either run onto Track H which is the re-fueling road and then it can be stabled on the depot somewhere, or if it does not need fuel / sand it can enter the depiot via track K or use point (7) to enter the depot.

Movement5

Fuel train.

Loco and occasionaly a stores van (when Bachman bring it out!) plus 2-3 TTA enter layout via track C and moves onto track G. It then backs the TTa into the tank road, track J and then backs the stores van onto track K. The stroes van is picked up by the depot 08 and moved to the stroes road, track M. The loco goes for fuel if needed or just finds a road to wait in.

To leave, the 08 take the stores van and TTa's onto track G where a loco attaches to the front and then leaves via point (5)+ (D1)+ (3) onto track C and fiddle yard.

There is a lot of track on my layout, but it was initially designed for use at home, and this is where it is used most weeks. I can quite understand someone saying there is too much track squeezed onto the boards, but then I like to see empty tacks! Sometimes they are full granted, but as all Locos have sound not everything is running.

Track S is supposed to be access for road transport

Track Q is an old inspection pit at the back of Shed road 1, the idea being it was left over from the sheds steam days, just incase its needed.

Track R is a small holding road that sometimes one of two snowploughs occupies.

Tracks T,U,V are holding roads, perhaps for locos that dont move much.

Track M is either used for a loco to sit in, or on the odd accasion a stores van enters the depot this is where the toilet roll is unloaded!

Track H is the fuel and sand road, locos can enter and exit from either direction though only one can re-fuel at a time, a second loco can sit in the road awaiting its turn.

Track J is where 2-3 TTA unload.
Track I is a short road, just long enough for 1 TTa or the 08 to wait in.

So whats missing (catch points) whats rubbish ( i dont mind you saying everthing ) whats nearly there and what seems ok?
 

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Phew!!

Well I personally can't see anything I would call rubbish, but then with your plan and intended operations anything goes! My personal opinion is that you don't even have to run a timetable - just play with what you fancy.

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QUOTE (BRITHO @ 3 May 2007, 13:26) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Phew!!

Well I personally can't see anything I would call rubbish, but then with your plan and intended operations anything goes! My personal opinion is that you don't even have to run a timetable - just play with what you fancy.

Regards

John

Thanks John,

I dont have a time table as such. I use the card system, i.e.
Card 1 DRs 20`s into depot, re-fuel then into track "U" and shut down
Card 2 top n tail 37 into track D
Card 3 153 on main
Cards 4,5,6,7 etc can say what ever.

However, if at a show someone asks to hear the 20's running for instance, I will start them up, a sort of wild card move if you like.
 

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>I will start them up, a sort of wild card move if you like.
or teenager in a class 08 sort of thing?


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QUOTE (dwb @ 3 May 2007, 19:41) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>>I will start them up, a sort of wild card move if you like.
or teenager in a class 08 sort of thing?


David

Ah yes but you need an inattentive yard staff and a much bigger yard for that.

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You really do have a good layout and i did not realise the amount of locos you have chipped!

QUOTE (**) Class 33 awaiting re-vamped Dcc supplies sound chip

Do you know when they are doing this re-engineered version?

As i am not happy with mine.

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Rimenough mk 3 was scrapped yesterday!

See pics below, just got a couple of yard lights, buildings and whatever track can be salvaged to come off. Had to take it down as i wanted to do a bit more on Olivers Road over the next week.

Will have to start "New rimenough" ( 2 x 5 x 2 foot boards )next week though as the layout is booked to go out in October.

Will have a slighlty different track plan than old Rimenough, will be changing some buildings etc as well to give it something different again.

 

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Right, been busy and i forgot to update this forum over the last two weeks.

So, catch up time.

This is the mk 4 track plan, well at least for today! You know how it is, you find another point, change this, that, then the layout has changed completley, well thats whats been happeneing.
Got 12 points and only wanted 10! Still, better than 18!
Decided this is 99% how it will stay though as it gives plenty of operation and a change from Rimenough mk 1-3.



The "Branch" line is totally seperate from the main depot now. The idea of the depot is that is supplies top + tailed class 37 for a Rhynmney style service. As such, top + tailed 37 will enter from fiddle yard, idle for a bit while the road to the valley lines is cleared and then depart at speed with thrash (at least as far as the Fddle yard!)
A class 67 + pcv train may well also operate on this line or perhaps a 158.
The reason behind sepereating it was (less points) and it can be controlled by a second operator at will with out interupting the depot action.

"Weedkiller train."
Top + tailed 37 on a wedkiller train (TTA x 2 + GUV circa 2002/3) can be seen coming into depot from fiddle yard and then departing as and when the need arrises.
This line may also see a snow plough train on a test run.

"Depot Fuel Unload."
- a short(3-4) TTA train hauled by whatever is handy enters from fiddle yard, pull up along side of shed rd 3 and then reverses into unloading road. I forgot to draw the storage tanks and building in that (lower right) area of the baseboards. As there is no run around, once unloaded the TTA are pulled forward again alongside the shed, then another loco takes up lead coming from one of the shed roads and departs.

Light engine. - Loco arrives from fiddle yard and can either enter shed road 1, 2 or 3. The Shed is two peco two road engine sheds that have been bashed into a tree road shed, fancied a change from the 4 raod shed of rimenough mk 1-3!
Loco can also go along side the shed (rd 1) and re-fuel. If not going to be in service for a while it can be stored on storage roads 1 or 2
Loco's can obviusly move around the depot from shed roads to storage, fuel etc at will.

Once a loco is re-fuled, it can leave via the "weedkiller" road and again give a bit of thrash as it departs.

Hopefully the above operations will provide enough to keep the public entertained as well as keep operators interseted in the variuos tasks to be done, may have some sort of card system so the routine is mixed up each time?

The two Peco train sheds will be bashed into a 3 road shed, something different.



General depot view.

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Right, did a bit more over the last two days after finishing the power and point wiring /programing last week between Weddings and Mx!

Started the scenery boards early yesterday and finished late last night Just got the deatails to add now and weather theborad down, then its the left board witht he sheds on. Should all be done by Wednesday!

This is the fuel discharge road (right) and the stores road on the left.



The crew sign on at this end of the layout, then have the short walk to the other end to pick up a loco!





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Forgot to say

Layout in its new mk 4 form shall make its 1st public here, pop alnong and say hello.

Sat 31st October - Sun 1st November 2009
Gloucester MRC - Cotswold Model Railway Exhibition
Thomas Keble School, Eastcombe, Stroud, Gloucestershire GL6 7DY
OPENING TIMES: 10am - 4pm BOTH DAYS
ADMISSION: Adults £4.00 Concessions £3.50 Children £3.00 Family £10.00
Eastcombe Scout Group are jointly hosting the Cotswold Model Railway
Show with Gloucester & Phoenix Model Railway Clubs on 31 October & 1
November (10am - 4pm) at Thomas Keble School, Eastcombe, GL6 7DY (signposted
off the A419), featuring over 12 layouts, 2nd hand stalls, trade stands,
demos and books. Scouts and Guides from Gloucestershire attending in uniform
are invited to attend free of charge.

So need to get on with it lol
 

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The story so far: Old rimenough Mk 3 scrapped in july?

Oct 2nd

Right, this is the track plan, well at least for today! You know how it is, you find another point, change this, that, then the layout has changed completley, well thats whats been happeneing.
Got 11 points and only wanted 10! can have another though??
Decided this is 99% how it will stay though as it gives plenty of operation and a change from Rimenough mk 1-3.



The "Branch" line is totally seperate from the main depot now. The idea of the depot is that is supplies to + tailed class 37 for a Rhynmney style service. As such, top + tailed 37 will enter from fiddle yard, idle for a bit while the road to the valley lines is cleared and then depart at speed with thrash (at least as far as the Fddle yard!)
A class 67 + pcv train may well also operate on this line
The reason behind sepereating it was (less points) and it can be controlled bu a second operator at will with out interupting the depot action.

Weedkiller train. Top + tailed 37 on a wedkiller train (TTA x 2 + GUV circa 2002/3) can be seen coming into depot from fiddle yard and then departing as and when the need arrises.
This line may also see a snow plough train on a test run.

Depot Fuel Unload. - a short(3-4) TTA train hauled by whatever is handy enters from fiddle yard, pull up along side of shed rd 3 and then reverses into unloading road. I forgot to draw the storage tanks and building in that (lower right) area of the baseboards. As there is no run around, once unloaded the TTA are pulled forward again alongside the shed, then another loco takes up lead coming from one of the shed roads and departs.

Light engine. - Loco arrives from fiddle yard and can either enter shed road 1, 2 or 3. The Shed is two peco two road engine sheds that have been bashed into a tree road shed, fancied a change from the 4 raod shed of rimenough mk 1-3!
Loco can also go along side the shed (rd 1) and re-fuel. If not going to be in service for a while it can be stored on storage roads 1 or 2
Loco's can obviusly move around the depot from shed roads to storage, fuel etc at will.

Once a loco is re-fuled, it can leave via the "weedkiller" road and again give a bit of thrash as it departs.

Hopefully the above operations will provide enough to keep the public entertained as well as keep operators interseted in the variuos tasks to be done, may have some sort of card system so the routine is mixed up each time?

For today, track is down. Power buss and feeds next today
then:

1/point fitting + point wiring (ls 150 Dcc) may put another point in on the depot fuel unload road and make it a stores road or a headshunt where the departing fuel loco comes from?

2/ fix building and details dow.

3/ Ballast

4/ other things!!

3 road depot



General depot view.



Track feeds + power bus put in, after a weekend of doing bugg er all!

All worked well, even better when i put the two missing feeds in! I had even drilled the holes for them, just ran out of red wire before the weekend haha.

A quick play revealed some work needed on some locos of varying classes before the show. Took a while to get to grips with the different functions, driving styles for class 37, 60, 66 & 67.
Have to say the Hornby class 60 is still the best play value wise!!

Must go back through my own reviews now to see whats is what, been out of the loop for ages this year, forgot what to do!

Fitting point motors and wiring them into ls 150 tomorrow. Hope to have most bits down and balast + greenery /bushes etc done for Friday evening, they can dry over the weekend then.

Right, did a bit more over the last two days after finishing the power and point wiring /programing last week between Weddings and Mx!

Started the scenery boards early yesterday and finished late last night Just got the deatails to add now and weather theborad down, then its the left board witht he sheds on. Should all be done by Wednesday!

This is the fuel discharge road (right) and the stores road on the left.



The crew sign on at this end of the layout, then have the short walk to the other end to pick up a loco!







Thursday 22nd Oct 2009

Forgot to updat this yeterday.

Planted the ews sheds yesterday, glued lightly down



and no sooner had i done so than the weeds started to grow. Looking at pics of Margam though it is not uncommon for weeds / bushes to be several feet tall so i will be doing parts of new Rimenough as quite overgrown!



 

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Did some more ysterday.

Got the ballast down on the shed board. Added the concrete area around the shed, the fuel road (partial) and did some weeding, well adding weeds. Will have another day on it Saturday.







 

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Had a couple of days working on the layout to finish off before the weekends show. Well, finish off is perhaps not the correct term as I am sure some ideas for change will come to me over the weekend! Looks ok though i think, just hope it all still works in the morning!
Got a couple of modelling jobs to do friday before racking.

here are some latest pics

The Nightshift View of the staff enterance



The Day Shift View



Crew Change Cabin, 37 on storage road in background



The stores road and fuel disharge road, not finished yet so a Friday job!



How green Was My Vaarlley! the 37's are on the storage roads. Note the attempt to make the depot look overgrown!



Sandy the Fitter tops up the Sandboxes on 37886



A conflab to discuse who spilt glue on the floor!



Tea and sunbeads, the depot staff take tea break on the "Piemanlarger" mobile canteen



Awaiting next turn



Shut down for the night

 

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Very nice - I like the night scenes & the little touches like the weeds in the expansion joints.

The Notwork Rail van must be less than a week old - no dents or scratches LOL !

Thanks for the update.
 

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Very nice


Has that Cooper got a Welsh dragon on the roof?

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QUOTE (Brian Considine @ 30 Oct 2009, 09:00) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Very nice - I like the night scenes & the little touches like the weeds in the expansion joints.

The Notwork Rail van must be less than a week old - no dents or scratches LOL !

Thanks for the update.

I blame you Brian! I dropped the network rail van carrying stuff into the show and a rear wheel is now missing lol! So thats a bit more as it should be perhaps! Well, will have to model it into a scene now haha.

QUOTE (dwb @ 30 Oct 2009, 18:26) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Very nice


Has that Cooper got a Welsh dragon on the roof?

David

Yes, it has, however, it crashed with the van above on the way into the show (lesson leant, carry everything in covered plastic containers not open cardboarb boxes) and now has the rear window smashed in!

On the whole I think the layout was well recieved, had enquiries for another couple of shows so we will see what happens.

Operation was good, only the driver was at fault on the whole though a couple of the locos need looking at and one point may need some work?
The Hornby class 60 was very impressive in use though the cl 37's were much requested, a triple headed swd cl 37 set powering out from the depot to fiddle yard was a favourite!
The howes 37 does not work well on a short depot layout just lots of reving, will have to look into Cv options for this to get more out of it. 67 were poplular and a couple even said they like the 66!
Need to put more yard lamps in and will add some more small details as time allows.
Re-fueling road needs to be finished, though as its on the rear of the shed you cant see it unless you go to the end of the layout!

So, now to put it back up and make the changes noted on the weekend.
 

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QUOTE (Piemanlarger @ 2 Nov 2009, 08:31) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I blame you Brian! I dropped the network rail van carrying stuff into the show and a rear wheel is now missing lol! So thats a bit more as it should be perhaps! Well, will have to model it into a scene now haha.

On the whole I think the layout was well recieved, had enquiries for another couple of shows so we will see what happens.

Sorry about that - still, it makes a change for me blaming everything on BRITHO !

Glad the layout was well received & you had some further enquiries. It can be tiring, exhibiting but we always find it well rewarding.

Keep up the good work.
 

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Did this last week, but been weathering with powders + paint this week.











 

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The second photo from top....Brilliant.
Good Job.


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Very nice photos (which mean great modelling)
The detail on the buffer beam looks great, not that I'm an expert on diesel drawbar gubbins.

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Very nicley weathered class 60!!
 
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