QUOTE After some advice about PO wagons, Ive toned mine down, and given them a good weathering.
My understanding is that PO wagons were effectively "nationalised" during the war and suffered the same if not worse deprivations due to lack of maintenance as all other railway stock and infrastructure. The result of this was that after the war, all wooden bodied open wagon stock was in pretty bad shape. So bad in fact that a massive building program was put in place for the steel bodied mineral wagons that we are familiar with. This new stock rapidly replaced these PO wagons, few of which survived on active duty beyond the late '50s.
Any that did survive would have been incredibly grubby and would almost certainly have had some planks repaired with plain unpainted planks. There was an excellent five page article in the December 2007 Hornby magazine on how this "distressing" might be done.
I was watching the BTF film "Train Time" last night. It's on volume one of the BTF film collection being published by the British Film Institute. Towards the end there is a good side on shot of a former private owner wagon. The only letters you can make out are "PAR" suggesting PARKES? and the top two planks look to be unpainted replacements. The film was published in 1952, so the film clip is then or earlier.
QUOTE cant say I have been in the mood due to a terrible week at work
I know how that feels
The wagons in the photos look good. The films I have been watching are all black & white, so I can't make draw any inference about the colour. The only other observation is that you can often see daylight between one of two of the planks. It looks like they may have shrunk a bit.
QUOTE Thanks David, not sure I can manage gaps between the planks, although I may have a go on one with my dremel ??
I'm guessing here but I think a machine tool might be too harsh. What I would try is scoring with a scalpel blade but you'd have to avoid slipping onto the planks themselves. To be honest, I'd only try it if I was short of other things to do.
The rust is definitely toned down and the appearance is better for it. I think the thing to remember is that coal wagons were doused in coal dust every time they were loaded which I guess was once or twice a week, but rust builds up over time. So even the rust will get a covering and a lot of coal dust will get trapped along the upper edges of the strapping where as it falls from above. Then rain will wash it in deeper and make a right nasty black mess of it.
Contrary wise, repainting the parts where the data panels go - weight, number etc - might help to emphasize the dilapidated nature of the rest of a vehicle. Just a black rectangle with white lettering on top. According to one of the BTF films, every yard reported what wagons it had, so that overall the people at the organising end knew what was where (as if?). To do that, the vehicle serial numbers would have had to be legible.
QUOTE Ive been working in Manchester centre a few times in the last couple of weeks and was struck by the number of viaducts and elevated sections of track
Leeds had a lot too. The whole final section of the GNR line into Leeds Central (long since demolished) was on an elevated section. A portion of it still exists. I've heard that there are plans to turn it into a path of some kind.
I really like the whole effect but I would agree with Robert about the outer harbour colour. At the risk of creating a thread loop from which there is no escape, here's a link back to my post of the Devon fishing boats which has a bit of harbour water in it. The one caution I would make is that my Fuji tends to make blue rather too blue, so if you match this colour, you will still be a little on the bright side.
QUOTE Mmm cant decide to model the tide in or out !
Out is probably easier, unless you went for the point where the path along the base of the wall is occasionally wet rather than being completely submerged.
QUOTE Not much to see for the hour,
More than I have for mine - two sets of pencil markings on a 130mm wide strip down two sides of a 4' x 2' sheet of plywood. I'd say they're too faint for photographing. I'll be getting out the saw tomorrow.
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