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Roco appear to be back with a bang this year and have announced several new items including several starter sets with the MultiMaus.

After the events of the last couple of years Roco appear to be expanding their range to what it was prior to the collapse. Their website has been updated with the new range and there are many new items which are sure to be popular with Continental modellers. In addition to German and Austrian there are also Belgian, Dutch, Spanish, Polish, Czech, and many others. It is interesting that they have produced so many locos for other countries. This is what I thought Hornby were going to do when they bought all those European companies.

Some of the new items are shown below.


K.Pev G10 This has the advantage over the Trix model released last year of accepting an 8 pin decoder instead of a 21. It is also cheaper.


DB Class 50


SNCF Electric loco BB 9200


RENFE Diesel D333


MAV Diesel M62


SNCF TEE DMU RGP


SBB TEE DMU RAm This is also being released by Trix this year. So it will be interesting to see the price difference.


BR03.10 This was released last year in blue and is now being offered in more traditional black.

Some excellent value start sets with highly acclaimed Multi Mouse.



Digital starter set VT 11.5 TEE



Digital starter set SBB



Digital starter set Ft „Roland"

There are many other new items in addittion. I am seriously thinking about the SBB Croc starter set as I get a Croc and a MultiMouse as part of the set. Looks like Roco are well back in the game.
 

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And what interests me in their new releases, something that we've been waiting for, is this:


HOe Narrow gauge steam locomotive Mh 6

A photo of the prototype:



ROCO 33260 OBB Mariazellbahn Museum 0-8-0 Mh6 steam locomotive Ltd. Edt.
(HOe scale) Tender 0-8-0 steam locomotive class Mh6 of the Austrian Mariazellbahn (OBB) in current museum version. All four locomotive axles driven via coupling rods. Current pickup on all locomotive wheels. Five pole, skew wound motor with flywheel. Boiler, water boxes and locomotive frame metal. Locomotive tender kinematics for prototypical locomotive-tender distance. Typical narrow gauge coupling mounted, additional standard coupling separately included. Epoch V, Digital ready with NEM652 interface, length: 134mm.
 

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>Digital starter set VT 11.5 TEE
I wonder how much that will cost? It could be quite tempting for someone I know who likes European multiple unit passenger trains.... and I'm not that fussy about what runs on my rails, I know which side my bread is buttered


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QUOTE (dwb @ 12 Jan 2007, 05:26) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>>Digital starter set VT 11.5 TEE
I wonder how much that will cost? It could be quite tempting for someone I know who likes European multiple unit passenger trains.... and I'm not that fussy about what runs on my rails, I know which side my bread is buttered


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The Roco website has it at 249 Euros which is top of the line. If you buy it from Modellbahn Kramm or Lokshop you will get it cheaper than that. I am in the fortunate position of getting the VAT off so it's even cheaper for me.
I really like the VT 11.5 TEE but am holding out for one with sound. Trix did one last year but it was about 700 or 800 euros which I thought was a bit excessive.
 

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I have a soft spot for the SBB crocodiles and have a 20-odd year old Roco model in my collection. Is the one in the new set the same as mine (i.e. old!) or updated in any way? The old one runs well but needs its drive belts replacing every now and then.
 

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Some nice things here..... I can see that DBclass 50 will be tempted, I really must visit the website.

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>The Roco website has it at 249 Euros which is top of the line
Maybe, but you're getting a DCC controller and a 7 piece passenger train for ~ £160 + shipping. They must be leaving something out. Roco coaches don't usually come in at £20 each.

I did a search on Modellbahn Kramm. They have it listed but they don't know the price yet. It's a very tempting offer.

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QUOTE (dwb @ 13 Jan 2007, 05:34) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>>The Roco website has it at 249 Euros which is top of the line
Maybe, but you're getting a DCC controller and a 7 piece passenger train for ~ £160 + shipping. They must be leaving something out. Roco coaches don't usually come in at £20 each.

I did a search on Modellbahn Kramm. They have it listed but they don't know the price yet. It's a very tempting offer.

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It's very good value I reckon. As you say you get a MultiMaus, power supply, track and a 7 piece train for Euro 249. I found it strange that it was 50 euro cheaper than the Croc set? My best guess is that the VT11.5 TEE could be a playtime model but if it was it would be even cheaper. Looks too good to be true. To be honest, probably the best deal for getting into DCC (seriously) is with one these sets. When I said top of the line I meant the most you will pay. 20 quid for a Roco, Maerklin or Fleischmann coach is fairly normal in Germany if you buy from one of the discount shops..

I'm not sure if the croc model is the older one. I haven't seen a new croc model from Roco in the catalogue so it could be the older one. Don't know. I might get one anyway as Rocos models are good and I can use the MultiMaus as a handheld on my new layout.

I'll be getting a K.Pev G10. I didn't buy the Trix one because of the 21 pole decoder. This ones cheaper and uses an 8 pin. The class 50 is tempting too.
 

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The VT 11.5 TEE must be a cheaper model as the VT11.5 TEE is 369 Euros if you buy it without a starter set. I haven't seen it so I couldn't say how good it is detail wise. The playtime models have the same motor and chassis but do not have the same detail. They are usually ok, on a par with Lima or some of Hornby's less good models.
 

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QUOTE (neil_s_wood @ 13 Jan 2007, 06:35) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>EE is 369 Euros if you buy it without a starter set. I haven't seen it so I couldn't say how good it is detail wise. The playtime models have the same motor and chassis but do not have the same detail. They are usually ok, on a par with Lima or some of Hornby's less good models.

The Playtime range is often the older tooling, such as the SNCB reeks 59 - however, I have a couple & they are excellent runners. BTW - the 59 & the DB218 retail for under £40 ! (similar prices to the Piko "Hobby" range.)
 

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>The VT 11.5 TEE must be a cheaper model as the VT11.5 TEE is 369 Euros if you buy it without a starter set
That seems a reasonable deduction. I showed the set to the "interested" party but didn't really get a bite. It doesn't quite pass the "hand into pocket" test.

Still I think it's a great idea to offer a "reduced detail" model to serve a different segment of the market. It should help get a quicker return on investment for the main body moulds.

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QUOTE (dwb @ 13 Jan 2007, 23:10) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>>The VT 11.5 TEE must be a cheaper model as the VT11.5 TEE is 369 Euros if you buy it without a starter set
That seems a reasonable deduction. I showed the set to the "interested" party but didn't really get a bite. It doesn't quite pass the "hand into pocket" test.

Still I think it's a great idea to offer a "reduced detail" model to serve a different segment of the market. It should help get a quicker return on investment for the main body moulds.

David
Some of these playtime models aren't bad at all. I have one which I got with a set and from a distance you don't really notice the lack of detail.
 
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