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QUOTE (sarah @ 11 Apr 2015, 10:26) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Some numbers and other lettering to do...and a new location...possibly Wrexham...

Wrexham - does not seem to have had any shunters trucks - dunno why.

Tenuous 'localish' ones include:

Saltney
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Birkenhead
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Birkenhead Extension Line (to Dock system)
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Birkenhead Morpeth Dock
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Thanks for that list.

Useful stuff.

Well, in my universe, Croes Newydd shed will gain a Shunters "chariot"...as will the Yard....eventually!


I am busy sorting out some suplus bits to re-finance other projects at the moment......
 

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QUOTE (sarah @ 24 May 2015, 18:28) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks for that list.

Useful stuff.

Well, in my universe, Croes Newydd shed will gain a Shunters "chariot"...as will the Yard....eventually!


I am busy sorting out some suplus bits to re-finance other projects at the moment......

Big fan of Croes Newydd (after all it was coded 6C after 1963!!) - yes unusual that Saltney got one or two.......but none at Wrexham...
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I'm researching Iron Ore trains to Brymbo - via CN at the mo.. fascinating...
 

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Iron Ore Trains to Brymbo!

In my universe, those trains go to Ffrwd Steelworks!
(Ffrwd works being developed instead of Brymbo....)

Sounds interesting stuff....

I have read that at least one of these workings was known as "The Hook Norton"....
 

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QUOTE (sarah @ 15 Jul 2015, 16:41) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Iron Ore Trains to Brymbo!
In my universe, those trains go to Ffrwd Steelworks!
(Ffrwd works being developed instead of Brymbo....)
Sounds interesting stuff....
I have read that at least one of these workings was known as "The Hook Norton"....

Ffrwd - an evocative name too...

Brymbo ironworks up until 1927 received all of the ironstone output of Hook Norton quarries in Oxfordshire - quite a trip in those days....
 

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Ah.

Hook Norton in Oxfordshire...that makes sense....

Here are some interesting links (Well I think interesting!
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Hook Norton...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hook_Norton

Bricks...Both Brymbo and FFrwd Ironworks made bricks, possibly for internal use...

(Scroll down to find...there were a LOT of Brick Waorks in North Wales once!)

http://www.penmorfa.com/bricks/N%20E%20Wales%20bricks.htm

Ffrwd Ironworks Brick....

http://lifeinvictorianbrickworks.co.uk/Brickgallery.htm

The Ffrwd Canal....

http://www.peter-quita.demon.co.uk/articles/Ffrwd.pdf

Brymbo Steelworks...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brymbo_Steelworks

Brymbo Area history pages....

https://thefireonthehill.wordpress.com/about/
 

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Yes, The Buckley Railway was built to link the brickworks and collierys to Connah's Quay docks...

It was later taken over as part of the Wrexham, Mold, and Connah's Quay Railway....later part of the Great Central, and so via the LNER to BR...

I have a mainly photo book on the Buckley Railway.....
 

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Well, i have to say Sarah, i've thoroughly enjoyed reading through your posts.

Very well done.

I noticed that you enjoy building Airfix / Dapol kits, i do too.

Think i shall start a post showing the Airfix cattle wagon's etc that i have made so far.

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Parkside Dundas PC36 SR (Ex SECR) PMV. Even Planked Version. Plastic Kit.

This is an older issue of the Kit, going by the packaging and instructions...C 1989...

This kit makes up into the South Eastern & Chatham Railway type van, and includes optional parts to make a Southern Railway Built version (1930s, Even Planked type).

The optional parts are the Chalk Boards, and side vents. The chalk boards may have been fitted to SECR vans, as the Bluebell Railway has one in SECR colours. (But this may not be fully authentic.)

http://www.bluebellrailway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/153.html

QUOTE The general purpose Luggage Vans were used for the carriage of parcels, newspapers, and many other forms of general merchandise. The SECR design of 1919 became the standard for the Southern Railway, and such vans were still being built to essentially the same design in the early days of British Railways in 1951. They were rated to run in passenger trains, and were frequently used as extra luggage vans on longer distance trains.

This van was the very last to be repainted from SECR brown, to SR green, in August 1930. Of very simple design, with the metal framing exposed, and planked on the inside, they are easy to maintain. Most of the 45 SECR-built vehicles continued in departmental use on BR right into the 1970s and a couple until 1989.

Southern Railway version...

http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/mls2186.html

Romford metal disk wheels (Coach, 14mm type) and brass beraings are supplied, as are mountings for a Tri-ang Type MKIII Tension Lock Coupling.

Kit Packaging...





Instructions





The partially made up kit...

The roof is not glued on yet....painting and glazing to do first!

All the parts in the photos are supplied in the kit, except for the coupling hooks, which are whitemetal ones from out parts stock. Plastic hooks ARE provided though!









 

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These Parkside kits make up quite nicely. Make sure you add sufficient weight before gluing the roof on.

Mine were made before NEM couplings became (almost) standard, but on all the more recent kits I have built I have used Parkside's NEM adapters and Bachmann or Hornby small couplings - using the NEM types also allows a little side to side movement, ideal for these long wheelbase vehicles. The Parkside adapters are intended to be used with the cranked couplings like Bachmann and Heljan insist on using, but I prefer to pack the adapters down a little using plasticard spacers between the adapter and the wagon floor, spaced to give the "correct" height for the couplings, and use straight couplings.

For these CCT/PMV vans, I used plastic microstrip of two different widths, painted a light grey, to create the bars/slats behind the windows. Again, this has to be done before gluing the roof in place.

I hope I'm not preaching to the converted, Sarah, but if I am, these tips might help someone else reading this topic.

I'll look forward to seeing the finished model.
 

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Hi SR man.

Thanks for the tips....they are along the lines of what I am planning....I was wondering about the colour of the window bars.

Some real ones seem to have galvanised bars. Of course, the RTR ones have white lines printed onto the glazing (see Hornby Dublo / Wrenn models...).

Parkside Dundas kit...Part 2....Couplings fitted.

NEM Couplings Fitted...using Parkside Dundas NEM mountings (PA34) on plastic card spacers.

The coupling pocket and hook are Hornby parts. (X.9289)

I am working on fitting NEM pockets on most of the Ffrwd Locks Rolling Stock...I may later fit NEM Kadees....all options open!










 

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Keyser (Ks) Plastic Kit. SR CCT 4-wheel Van. This kit dates from the 1980s.

I have aquired two of these kits.

As the sides are the same for the CCT (Covered Carriage Truck) as for the PMV (Parcels and Micelaneous Van) I am thinking of modifying one set of ends to make a PMV.

The Southern Railway carried on building what was a South Eastern & Chatham Railway design, adding extra ventilators to the sides below the windows.

The Ks kit has these moulded in, as well as the Chalk Boards below each window.

The side planking is "even planked", so this wagon is most probably a pre-WW2 build, as some later builds used two widths of planking on the sides.

There are no roof ventilators provided...some CCTs it seems did not have roof vents, or at least lost them later in their lifes.

It seems that the Southern Railway called the CCTs "COVCAR", and the Luggage (PMV) vans "PLV" Passengers Luggage Van. Some were lettered "LUGGAGE" in the bottom right corner.

So far, I have made a good start on one kit.

I have opened out the rounded corners of the windows, as the real ones are squared off.

The kit provides plastic Tension Lock Couplings, and Plastic "Mansell" Coach Wheels.

I have fitted Hornby metal 14.1 MM Coach Wheels, and NEM mountings from Parkside Dundas (PA34), with Hornby NEM couplings and pockets.

I have added a floor (not provided in the kit) and fitted a brake cylinder and other parts from a Parkside Dundas PMV kit (there are two sets in th eParkside kit).

A chunk of metal has been glued to the floor as a weight.

For the age of the kit, and the simplification made to the details to bring the costs down (one box has a price of £0.99 on it!) it isn't too bad.

I also have an ex Hornby Dublo Wrenn version, and that is being detailed. It compares well with the Ks Kit!

The Dapol OO gauge model is basically a re-toled Hornby Dublo / Wrenn body, but with the doors made part of the body, so they don't open!

The Bachmann models are probably better, but there is also the Parkside Dundas kits....see other posts for The Parkside kit I have...

The packaging and parts laid out...

























The rather basic instructions...



Prototype pictures...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/linda_chen/45...12189?ytcheck=1

http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se...nfo.asp?Ref=473

http://www.departmentals.com/photo/083431

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/srcctdepa...75975#h1f1a8108

Also some more information....including models....

https://grahammuz.com/2012/03/16/talking-st...d-utility-vans/

There were bogie vans, the bodies of which look just like 2 of the 4-wheel van bodies mounted on a bogie chassis....some were modified to carry elephants!

http://www.rcts.org.uk/features/carriages/...carriages/srguv
 

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Hi Reddo...

Still to come are the "So Far" pics of the first Ks Kit, and the beginning of modifications to a Wrenn (Ex Hornby Dublo) CCT, with opening doors (so can be posed loading / unloading
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Keyser (Ks) Plastic Kit. SR CCT 4-wheel Van. Part 2

The part completed kit...



No weight fitted yet...



Underside shewing the Vacuum Brake cylinder, etc, spares from the Parkside Dundas Kit (please see other posts on here!).



One end....







Nem couplings fitted using Parkside Dundas NEM mountings (PA34) on plastic card spacers.

The coupling pocket and hook are Hornby parts. (X.9289)







 

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Wrenn (Ex Hornby Dublo) SR CCT modifications...

As part of our SR PLV/PMV and CCT collection (See kit built versions elswhere on this Forum...), this Wrenn BR Blue CCT (with opening doors!) is going to be re-painted into BR "Crimson" livery...Or possibly late Southern Railway livery...

The roof vents will be getting changed....





Going by the "Shell" type roof ventilatores, this model is based on a 1950s BR Built example. (The vents on earlier builds were of the "Torpedo" type...)



So far, the chassis has bore the brunt of the modifications.



The trussing has had the extra vertical braces removed, and also the V hanger on the "wrong" side, away from the vacuum cylinder.

There is to be another V hanger added alongside the Vacuum Cylinder, as in the Parkside Dundas kit built example...and possibly some brake linkage....the spare part box is to be raided.

The supplied wheels were spoked, and I believe that they "should" be coach sized disk wheels.

The Wrenn axle hangers were the "simple" plain ones...

Hornby Dublo used some neat axle hangers that have a representation of th ebrake shoes, in line with the wheels.

So, the wheel hangers were replaced with brake shoe ones from the spares box, the plastic moulded brake shoes attached to the solebar and springs being cut away.

The new wheels are Wrenn Disk Wheels, so probably a tad small, but they work better in the hangers than Hornby Pin-point ones...I did try!

Possibly brass bearings inserted into the holes in the hangers would work with pin-point axles, but we don't have any the right size...Yet!


The Wrenn "Tri-ang" MKIII type couplings were unscrewed, and the mountings cut off carefully.

Parkside Dundas NEM mountings were modified by carefully trimming off the "upstand" so that the base fitted directly onto the bosses for the PECO type Hornby Dublo Couplings. This made the mountings just about the correct hight, matched to another NEM fitted wagon...

Hornby Nem Pockets and Narrow Tension Lock Couplings have been fitted.

The "scale" type coupling hooks are some of the last of the batch of white metal hooks from the spares boxes...



The opening doors will enable some posed pictures of loading and unloading...

It came missing one door, so has had a spare door fitted, a brown one!

The uneven planking on the body would make it an early BR example, as some later builds used Plywood sides. The uneven planking dates from the War years...






 

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A project that has been awaiting for some time...

Converting an "open cab" Hornby GWR Class 2721 0-6-0 Pannier Tank loco to the "Closed Cab" version.

The number will stay the same for now....it isn't that important!


The rear of the cab comes from a Hornby LMS 3F 0-6-0 Tank Loco ("Jinty") that I am converting to "open cab"!.

The original roof has been re-used, extended with plastic card....

Spare J94 reverser and handbrake parts have been used, but needed cutting down a lot! I think the reverser is still a bit tall....but will have to stay as is.


The beginning...




Almost completed building work...






 

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The early photo shewing the Handbrake and Reverser are full height, before being cut down....

The rear of the cab and Bunker...



After initial painting, adding Buffer beam numbers, and Yellow Restriction Spot (Not on the Railroad models...)..

The whistles....Hornby provide one short type, and one long type (the ols type from the B12, etc...

I have replaced the long thin B12 whistle with another of the "Short" type, but not pushed all th eway in so as to resemble the slightly taller second whistle.

GWR Locos had two whistles, the higher pitched "Road" whistle for warnings, and the lower pitched "Brake" whistle, which was used to signal to the Guard of a loose coupled loco to apply the brake...

The "Portholes" have had "brass" rims added using a "Brass" or "Gold" coloured fiber tip pen.

These pens, including a silver one, have also been used to highlight the cab pipes, etc.











Comparison between two 2721 locos....The Open Cab, and the Claosed Cab versions...





 

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Another Hornby 2721...this one is staying Open Cab....After initial detail painting, fitting crew, Cut down J94 Reverser, and Hornby Handbrake....

On this one, the top of a Hornby Handbrake has been attached to a section of plastic tube...












 
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