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Every so often in railway modelling mags I see reference to running in new locos, but no explanation of what is meant. Is there a need to go through a process with new models?
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Welcome to the Forum.

It means simply running the loco for an hour or two forward and then the same in reverse to ensure the mechanism and motor are working properly. This can be done either on a continuous layout or on a 'Rolling Road', which is basically several sets of rollers on a base; these can be moved about to suit the wheelbase of the loco. The loco can then be operated continuously without it moving an inch, so it's particularly useful if you don't have a continuous layout.

This 'running-in' procedure gives you assurance that there are no problems with the loco - or may show it needs to be returned because of a fault.

By the way, don't assume a brand-new loco is ready to run; it may have been stored for some while (months) since being made and the oil may have dried out. Clean and oil as per the maker's instructions first.

Regards,
John Webb
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Hi Steve & welcome to MRF.

As John says check to make sure that there a enough lubricant (not too much though) & running in gently will pay dividends in smooth running & longer life.

Please don't be tempted to use 3 in 1 though !
QUOTE (Brian Considine @ 16 Jul 2008, 19:36) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Please don't be tempted to use 3 in 1 though !

Or WD40

Regards
Most model shops sell suitable oil for models. Use a large pin or a needle (possibly stuck in a cork) to apply very small drops of oil at the points indicated by the maker's instruction leaflet.

Regards,
John Webb
QUOTE (BRITHO @ 17 Jul 2008, 12:39) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Or WD40

Regards

Now this is scary stuff, I have a friend that lubricates his locos with a spray of WD40, he wants to run his locos on my layout but I am hesitant to go along with this as I shudder when I think what it may do to traction tyres, very sad but I tend to put him off.
I am running in all of my new locos on my rolling road with a DC controller prior to fitting a DCC decoder. About half an hour in each direction at varying speeds seems to work well.

I use a rolling road that is in my study above my PC so I can monitor it whilst running in.

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QUOTE (kingsnorton @ 17 Jul 2008, 22:39) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Now this is scary stuff, I have a friend that lubricates his locos with a spray of WD40, he wants to run his locos on my layout but I am hesitant to go along with this as I shudder when I think what it may do to traction tyres, very sad but I tend to put him off.
Almost certainly it will make them hard, brittle & then useless.

I would also be careful & not run your stock on his layout - the stuff is bound to be gunked up everywhere.

WD40 will actually make things run very well for a short time - than it will creep everywhere (after all that's what it's designed to do) to where it's not wanted & dry up - you may just as well spray the loco's with diesel/turps.

Many outlets sell oil in a syringe type dispenser so you can get just a tiny drop where needed. Oils/greases for fishing reels is supposed to be good as they are fine lubricants designed to stay put. (Must get some to try).
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Hi All
I'm using a silicone grease based lube
Comes in a spray can
I spray some on a piece of paper and use a jewelers screw driver to pick some up and put it on the bits needed
Makes for very quiet running , does not conduct electricity and stays in place .
Regards Zmil
QUOTE (zmil @ 18 Jul 2008, 17:53) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi All
I'm using a silicone grease based lube

Hi zmil,

Don't make us beg. What's it called and where can I get some ??

Expat
For axles or gears, I use LGB Gear Lubricant 51020.
QUOTE (Expat @ 19 Jul 2008, 00:07) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi zmil,

Don't make us beg. What's it called and where can I get some ??

Expat

Not sure if it is still available Branded "Electrolube" "silicone grease compound"

I bought that at a electronic's supplier about 10 years ago

From memory the local 2nd hand train shop had a special lube as well which they recommended as it
had a solvent that did not affect plastic's
Hope this helps
Zmil
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Hi Zmil,

I hope you're not talking about the stuff Peco used to sell as Electrolube and then changed the name to Powerlube.

There was a thread back in April in which Electrolube was rated as the second worst loco killer after WD40.

http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/index...?showtopic=5126

Thanks anyway,

Expat
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Its not the hornby variety
But I would not spray anything near a loco as most propellants are solvents of some sort.
Thats why I spray on a piece of paper then use only a drop.
I used to use an oil based variety by Bitron ,dip the watchmakers screwdriver in the bottle and use one tiny drop only
But it still found its way to the brushes
the silicone grease has not done so.
The reason I use the electronic's variety is that it is a very fine grade.

I had a bit of drama recently with a 2nd hand loco that I had in storage for a long time
It still had smoke fluid in the suethe smoke machine
The fluid is also oil based and it was everwhere on the loco inside and out
including the insides of the motor.
That stuff is just as bad as wd 40
Regards Zmil
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Hi Zmil,

I've found an Electrolube web site with several products that look as though they may be suitable.

Is yours either of these by any chance

Hand Liquid Fluid Bottle Finger
Hand Tire Automotive tire Bottle Drinkware


Expat

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QUOTE (Expat @ 19 Jul 2008, 05:18) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I hope you're not talking about the stuff Peco used to sell as Electrolube and then changed the name to Powerlube.
At least when we get a locomotive in need of attention it's clear if the horrid stuff has been used by the smell ! - that way we know we are in for a complete stripdown.

It's almost as bad as their track "cleaning" rubber !
QUOTE (Sol @ 18 Jul 2008, 23:55) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>For axles or gears, I use LGB Gear Lubricant 51020.
I've used it too - IMHO it's just a tad on the thick side, but at least it stays put. (as does the LGB oil).
QUOTE (Expat @ 19 Jul 2008, 16:22) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi Zmil,

I've found an Electrolube web site with several products that look as though they may be suitable.

Is yours either of these by any chance

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Expat

Hi Expat
It looks a bit like the red can , Mine may be an older version
I'm sure someone will correct us if using this can lead to other complications
but the solvent (propellant) is not good for plastics
Ive pulled motors apart , to have a look ,after using this and did not find any inside the contact area where the brushes are

Regards Zmil
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QUOTE (Expat @ 19 Jul 2008, 16:22) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi Zmil,

I've found an Electrolube web site with several products that look as though they may be suitable.

Is yours either of these by any chance

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Expat

***I'd still rate the oils and greases sold often in fishing gear shops as the best for what we need. The brand I know for these is superlube, and they come in tubes about the sie of a mid sized toothpaste tube. High in teflon, very stable and they stay where they are put. Price is reasonable too.

Richard
DCCconcepts
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Hi Expat
The fishing lube sounds the way to go you can even get a silicone grease based one
branded "Abu Garcia" Oils and Lubes. There are Precision Oilers and Silicote Reel Lubes.
If you cant find a fishing shop locally I'm sure you can find some on Ebay
These are in a small tube so no need to worry about spray getting on plastic
Regards Zmil
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