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Something I have been working towards for some time now...

A model of the Brush Type 4 Co-Co (Class 47) D1677 named 'THOR'...

This was actually the second '47' to receive the nameplates August 29th 1966), as the first, D1671 (September 1965), was scrapped after being involved in a fatal accident on the night of December 16th/17th 1965 , involving derailment by a landslip and susequent collision with a Class 37 (EE Type 3 Co-Co), D6983, which was also scrapped....

http://class47.co.uk/c47_numbers.php?s_loco=1671

D1677 was later numbered 47 091 (1974), then 47 647 (1986), then 47 846 (1990)

http://class47.co.uk/c47_numbers.php?index...amp;s_loco=1677

This is a Lima body (Lima L204633) in BR Two tone green with yellow front and canb windows, on a Hornby Railroad chassis, with TTS DCC Decoder fitted.

The nameplates are from Modelmaster.

I have removed the old numbers, 47 369 and backdated the cab areas into Yellow Panel livery, from the Yellow end and windows.

The new numbers are 'Wolf' rub-down from Modelmasters.....a pity there wasn't a complete number for D1677, it was fun!

I have also cut out the headcode boxes, and drilled out the tail lights....and fitted a driver in each end.

Lighting is a distinct possibilty.....sometime!


The headcodes are temporary ones, from an old Hornby Class 37 sheet....

Couplings are Kadee NEM, #18 or #19 I think....



















 

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Thanks for the 6 wheel toad walk-through.

Wondering if they were for special workings as have just discovered they were 24 tonners...?
 

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Seems originally when new, most were allocated to Aberdare and used pretty exclusive on heavy London coal hauls, with the extra weight for the weight of train rather than gradient etc.

From the prototypes Oxford have modelled - later allocations included : Swindon, Bordesley Junc., Wolverhampton and Bridport. It seems during WW2 allocations became more widespread.
 

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So....heavy coal trains. Makes sense.

Well, my one will be allocated to Croes Newydd Yard....

Heavy Iron Ore trains up the hill to Ffrwd Ironworks, and the emties back down!


I alao have a 4-wheel one to modify in a similar fashion.....
 

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QUOTE (sarah @ 17 Sep 2018, 18:51) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So....heavy coal trains. Makes sense.

Well, my one will be allocated to Croes Newydd Yard....

Heavy Iron Ore trains up the hill to Ffrwd Ironworks, and the emties back down!


Excellent - have seen photos of GWR RODS, 28xx, 66xx and Granges being flogged up to Brymbo on Iron Ore workings, must have been quite a spectacle especially, with the speed restrictions on that line!.

Looking forward to seeing your views/work on the iron ore trains - have done a bit of work myself - mostly research on the hoppers and workings.
 

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QUOTE (sarah @ 27 Jan 2018, 15:30) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Posts re-submitted with modified image links, after they were changed by the hosting site!

A Hornby DCC Fitted (Hornby 4-pin decoder) LMS 3f "Jinty" converted to the Midland Railway 1F 0-6-0T using the Crownline conversion kit, which was designed to fit the earlier "Front Wheel Drive" "Jinty" chassis.

Some slight modification to some kit parts, mainly the cab floor, were needed!

Almsost Finished!

Still needs the Sandbox filler in the side tanks filled....and BR Early Emblems!

Some more photos of the Hornby/ Crownline LMS 1F 0-6-0T...















Over the last few days, the 1F has had the sandbox filler fiillled and painted, and small Early Emblem HMRS Transfers added....next is a coat of matt varnish....

All that is really needed now is a smolebox number plate, fire irons, and a loco crew!

The "storm sheet" has been made from the foil from a wine bottle cork cover! Inspired ny Iain Rice (Detailing RTR locos book. He used toothpaste tube (metal)...but that is now scarce....


The retaining ropes are sewing cotton....

BR Early Emblems from HMRS BR Loco & Coach presfix sheet...I had to resist putting the bigger versions on!












 

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That is a neat conversion and something I considered myself, before the Bach offering came to market.

I have to ask though, how does it compare with curent RTR offerings of the 1F halfcab?
 

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I have not had the chance to do a direct comparrison.....not having access to a Bachmann version myself.

The Crownline kits were rather good in their day....and I have another one in stock to do a LSWR "M7" using a Tri-ang Hornby base model, sometime!

Also most parts, I think, of a West County Conversion kit from the Tri-ang model....

Of course, most of the conversion kits are now scarce, as the company ha gone, and most have been made RTR nowadays....

BUT it is a lot more fun to make your own!
 

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The Mainline Railways (Palitoy) "Dean Goods" (1982-1985) compared to the current Oxford Rail "Dean Goods"...

The Mainline model has had new, narrow, tension lock couplings fitted in place of the Mainline pattern originals.




















 

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Hornby Terrier, the new version. R3767. BR Lined Black, Early Crest. 32655 (Stepney).

General views....after I had installed a loco crew, and changed the colour of the reverser lever and regulator....and the gauge glasses.









The extra pipes, which fit under the buffer beams...





Initial modifications...


All locos deserve a crew!

The gauge glasses look better (IMO) in white than "Copper" or "Brass", and the Reverser is not likely to be made of Brass or Copper, as it would likely bend! (It is coloured "Copper" or "Brass"as it comes.

The Regulator is plain black as it comes....I prefer it in red!








Getting into the cab...body dis-assembly.


The body, boiler, side tanks, cab and bunker, are held onto the metal footplate by 7 screws. one into the smokebox, two each side into the side tanks, and two into the cab/bunker.







The cab seems to be clipped to the boiler, but there are a few pipes from the boiler that are probably glued into the holes in the cab front....I did not try to part the cab from the boiler as I did not relish trying to get the pipes back into their holes, even if they were not glued in!




DCC Decoder Fitting.


The 6-Pin socket is in a position that precludes the use of most, if not all, direct plug 6-pin decoders.



The Hornby R7150 6-pin decoder has a short wire harness and 6-pin plug.

The wires are just about the maximum length that can be folded over the decoder, and still fit inside the body.

Some insulating tape is a very good idea to cover the exposed connexions, and prevent the decoder coming into contact with any metal...









It is one of very few 6-pin decoders that can be fitted, it would seem....I have got the Hornby decoder, and fitted it to mine. Less hassle for me.

Couplings.

I have fitted Kadee NEM couplings to my Terrier. #19. The NEM pockets on the Terrier are at the correct height when seated properly, but the Kadee couplings require packing under the shaft inside the pockets, otherwise they are a bit of a loose fit and droop.









Coupled to a Hornby Ex LNER Class O1 tender chassis...again the NEM pocket is at the correct height....

 

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Many thanks Sarah for this detailed information.

I received this locomotive about a month ago but have not used it at all since but I had not realized until it arrived that it needed a 6 pin decoder.

I have ordered the Hornby decoder which my daughter will be picking it up when she is in UK next week.

The main disappointing issue about my model, which is the late crest version, was that the front buffers were not attached. As it is well packed it seems unlikely that these will have come off in transit. Unfortunately they are stuck on and
not plugged in but I hope super glue will fix them in place. The top of the chimney on my model is just black and not brass colour as shown on the packaging. Does anyone know which it should be?
The information you have provided is very useful, thank you. I will also be fitting kadee couplings.
 

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Thanks...

The copper chimney cap is a hang over from the early A1 models.

Apparently, at least one has been sent back because the package, incorrectly, shews a copper chimney cap, when the model, correctly, has a plain black chimney.

I think that the pictures were made earlier on, and not corrected.

It is a pity that this was allowed to happen, as it is technically a breach of consumer trading regulations.... incorrectly described on the packaging!
 

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QUOTE (sarah @ 5 May 2019, 16:38) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hornby Terrier, the new version. R3767. BR Lined Black, Early Crest. 32655 (Stepney).

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DCC Decoder Fitting.


The 6-Pin socket is in a position that precludes the use of most, if not all, direct plug 6-pin decoders.

EDITED TO ADD:-

There are two screws that hold the body and footplate assembly onto the chassis, as detailed in the instructions.

The front screw is under the NEM coupling pocket, which needs to be removed to access the screw.


>SNIPPED
 
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