The very first mention of N gauge was by bobknee, but only with a teasing suggestion to opening another topic to discuss it.
The next was by yourself with thisQUOTE Can N gauge modellers do any of this, and if they can at what price?
Miniaturization means more for less.
I believe the point you were trying to make at the time was that fitting digital chips to HO scale UK locos would be difficult. Surely it is fair to say that if they can be fitted in N-gauge locos, then there should be no problem with HO?
The price is a separate matter - better to deal with one point at a time if we are to avoid confusion. I might add that all the altering of posts and double posting does make it very difficult to be sure of what is really going on.
QUOTE British modellers are now getting continental standards for a lot less money and this is down to OO scale being used. A British tank loco is £40-£50 for a very good model. The HO continental equivalent is £100 or more. I simply am not prepared to pay £100 for a new tank loco no matter what and if HO means that then forget it. And I suspect that I hold a majority view on this point!
Those few lines need some looking at.
On what basis do you decide that British models ARE up to "Continental standards"?
They have improved, but whether they have yet actually equalled Continental is debatable.
I would say it's even pretty questionable as to how that could be fairly judged, even by someone unbiased one way or the other.
So, no problem in saying that UK OO models have improved some over the last 20 years. But I have a big problem with how the improvement can possibly be attributed as "this is down to OO scale being used"? Sorry, but I don't see any connection whatever - UK scale was always OO, so why is quality only recently starting to bridge what was a large gap?
As for the price comparison, you post a couple of prices, plucked from . . . where?
In comparing any items with each other, we need to know which items are being compared or the comparison is meaningless.
So, rather than posting pictures of N gauge and OO locos, which have a VERY large difference in scale, it would be very much more useful to compare equivalent HO and OO models, especially when that is actually the basis for this discussion. Even with the pictures shown, you don't state who makes which model or what their prices are. Could you fill that information in so we can then perhaps make fair comparisons?
"If HO means that (double the price), then forget it"
How can you attribute the price difference purely to the scale and ignore any other consideration?
" . . . I hold a majority view on this point!"
Well, apart from the 'point' being very ambiguous as already mentioned, again, I wonder on what basis you feel you are in a majority. Maybe you are, but I suspect that there just might be a few more rail modellers outside little old UK than inside it and the super massive majority of them wouldn't agree at all!
What would be extremely interesting would be a detailed comparative review of reasonably fair and equivalent UK and Continental locos and perhaps rolling stock. The HUGE problem would be to find someone who wasn't already immovably biased one way OR the other!